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can you live in a 450.sq ft house for long term survival

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by hank2222, May 3, 2011.


  1. hank2222

    hank2222 Monkey+++

    Yes they do and i lived inside those units also .So yes they count [CRC]
     
  2. Gafarmboy

    Gafarmboy Monkey+++

    count me in on the Conex Condo's....

    The only thing that I can imagine to be worse would to be living on a sub.
    Hot bunking is nooooo Fun....

    Gafarmboy
    If you can not protect what you own, you won't own it long..
     
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  3. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    Hot racking was the PITS. To this day, I can't fall asleep in a bed if the sheets are body temperature. Just a general aversion. Ah another bubble head squid, gotta love the Navy.
     
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  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Didn't have that problem, was E5 going aboard (after a tour in a training command) so I had my own rack from day 1. Normally, we had only half a dozen or so NQPs E4 and below racking out with the fish, and as often as not, even the NQPs had their own skid in the torpedo room. Once qualified, the COB made sure you got your own. (Emphasis on "normally." There were some, ah, special circumstances involving riders and warshot loadouts ---)

    [beer]
     
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  5. content

    content On Hiatus Banned

    I have lived for 2 years in a 60 square foot van, dude. :) if she has one of her own, so can the "old lady". 2 of you in a van makes for domestic trouble, but the van can easily tow a 6x10 trailer and the trailer can be left sit someplace really easily. Let her have 'her space' in the trailer, man. The trailer can easily haul a 450 cc motorcycle and a mountain bike can ride atop the van, too, foffering "off road' and backup transport potential.
     
  6. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    Don't forget your tactical wheelbarrow.
     
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  7. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    moving into a 10 x 20 cabin this summer/fall
    soon as its finished
    wife and i are both over 50, kids 'were' all moved out...lol
    i'll have a workshop and smithy to go to
    wife will have a wash shack
    so we wont be limited to thecabin
    plus 2 of the 4 kids live close by
     
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  8. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    You almost made spit my drink on the screen. [lolol][lolol][lolol][beer]

    BWM
     
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  9. Gafarmboy

    Gafarmboy Monkey+++

    Heck ya...

    Who can forget the Tactical Wheelbarrow story..
    Still one of the best stories out there..

    Gafarmboy
    If you can not protect what you own, you won't own it long.
     
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  10. Gafarmboy

    Gafarmboy Monkey+++

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  11. hank2222

    hank2222 Monkey+++

    here is my idea of my small 450 ft cabin..the front 20.ft is liveing area with bult in bathroom and large open floor plan for the liveing and sleeping in the area ..the back 24.ft is stowage area for long term supplies
    stealth.
     
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  12. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    I would love to have a shelter, just in case. My dad had a shelter, built circa 1950's on his first property. We (the kids) loved playing in it. Too bad he sold his land and bought a different place 10 years before he passed, I would have loved to inherit that shelter...
     
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  13. hank2222

    hank2222 Monkey+++

    here is my floor plan for the socalled 450.sqft place..

    As you can see it more set up for a single person than a couple or person with childern ..plus i want to say this i stole alot of the ideas for storage space shelf system from other places and people ideas and put them into one unit i want design for the storage area of the place ..

    i saw a bunch of diff ways to store items and likes it parts of the ideas and threw out other parts intill i had down in drawing of the idea stowage rack system i want to have in the place..

    the layout is as follows as you come into the unit ..

    left side hold the kitchen area with bult in eating counter with chair

    right side holds the bathroom with it washer and dryer combo and shower with bult in sink unit and toliet

    the outside wall of the bathroom has two open slots
    1-is for setting down and removeing the shoes and hanging up the coats before going farther into the place..

    this are is 24.inchs wide

    2-is for hideing the tool section and it hidden behind a brag or picture board set up

    with the opening space for the bathroom inbetween them

    the side where is kichen is a long L-shaped book case that 24.inchs deep to hold a ton of books in the bc..plus the bookcase runs from the floor to the top of the ceiling to cram as much many books and dvd wallets i could in the area..

    the bookcase is 16.ft long then the L shaped part is 7.ft long with it running top to bottom of the wall to hold more books .

    with a small 22.inch flat screen color tv with a shelf for the dvd player hanging off the unit ..

    in front of the tv is a single really nice single high end chair with foot rest and end table for use in the place ..it hold my drink and remotes for the tv and dvd player

    the area around the chair is about 10.ft wide-x-10.ft long from the bed to the book case on one side to the front of the book case to the rear bookcase is open sqaured area for me to live and workout in ..

    the right side after the bathroom has a queen sized mattress set up with drawer under the base to hold extras items on the unit

    the bed is a tempuc pedic grand mattress set up ..under the bed has a stowage space also to put away things from pying eyes if you get my meaning on that one ..

    the bed has a four hight L shaped bookcase with a ledge that is 18."inchs deep to hold items along with under the ledge is open for more storage of items as it need ..i use this space for books ..

    next to the bed is a small stand up wall locker with single pull out drawer for use as need to hold clothing ..

    the rest of the wall is used as a bookcase to hold more books and dvd wallets..

    the stowage areas

    the one long wall is design to hold the following items

    first and second shelf are design to hold the 5 or 6 gallon long term buckets of food items

    third and fourth shelf is design to hold rubbermaid stowage tubs in ind type slots set up like in the picture

    the rest of the shelf levels are open shelf set up to hold long term food or other supplies in the case lots

    the other side is set up with two 30.inchs wide shelf for stowage of long term supplies and a 30.inch wide walk way that is going to be used also for stowage

    the unit after that is a top to bottom shelf system to hold long term food supplies and other items as need in the shelf system

    so what do you think of the single person cabin set up ..the unit is 45.ft long -x-14.ft wide-x-11.ft tall
    c-floor plan set up. zoom-1246380088-8993. SheltISShelf. UGstoragesm. UGShelf0810_sm.
     
  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Beach Cabin Cadd Drawing....

    Here is the Cadd Drawing of my Beach Cabin........ 350+ Sq Feet.....
     

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  15. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    It would even better if you could bury it in a hill. I could live in that size area nicely.
     
  16. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

  17. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    That would suit me to a tee. thanks for posting radpug
     
  18. goinpostal

    goinpostal Monkey+++

    Us truck drivers routinely live in space less than a quarter that size.You have a mansion in comparison.Matt
     
  19. radpug

    radpug Monkey+

    Your welcome Righthand, heres a link you maybe intrested in
    Katrina Cottages.

    I grew up in a small home it was 450 or 500, 2 parents and me.
    Its rather tight quarters for 3 people. It was not really energy effecent either,
    Better designs now a days.
    Life rather ironic , now my folks live with me and my homes less
    Than a 1000, its not very enery effecent either. But at least its a bit more
    Room. The problem with going small size, you really have to think about
    Getting older and needed special equipment in the showers ect.. Having
    Room for wheel chair its a necessity.
     
  20. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Good link radpug. Thanks.the advantage here in the NE is we all have basements that allow for the mechanics as well as storage so a 500 Sq ft place is more than adequate for many of us.
     
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