Coconut oil shelf life? Other cooking oils

ghrit · Aug 18, 2011

Seawolf1090 said: ↑

Y'all got me sold - this weekend the 'Wolf goes in search of Coconut Oil!
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ghrit is also on the hunt.

Falcon15 · Aug 18, 2011

I cook my rabbit meat in Coconut oil to give the meat essential fatty acids, and let me tell you is sure is yummy. I have a 5 gallon bucket - shipping weight is 46.5#. That is a LOT of coconut oil. You use a tablespoon or two at a time...

tacmotusn · Aug 18, 2011

Falcon15 said: ↑

I cook my rabbit meat in Coconut oil to give the meat essential fatty acids, and let me tell you is sure is yummy. I have a 5 gallon bucket - shipping weight is 46.5#. That is a LOT of coconut oil. You use a tablespoon or two at a time...
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How well does it mix with corn starch or flour for pan sauces after cooking with it? I love to do sauces after pan frying with a bit of the oil left over.

Seawolf1090 · Aug 18, 2011

Hehehe..... this article only verifies my desire to avoid Canola Oil whenever possible. Problem is, it is in most of the processed foods we consume. I found a new (to me) brand of Kettle Chips today at the office cafeteria. It was labeled as "Gluten Free" (good, as a buddy suffers from Celiac Disease and I try to use some GF products too), and as "All Natural". Imagine my dismay to find one of the ingredients - 'canola oil'..... dang, not so 'natural' then. It's off my list to buy.

IfI have trouble finding Coconut Oil locally, I may have to go 'old school'.... pig lard.

Kingfish said: ↑

We only use it in our deep fryer for fish. Also some gets used in browning meats for stews. We also fry with butter, crisco, and other vegetable oils. My wife has always used Canola due to low bad fats. READ IN PARTICULAR THE PART I PUT IN QUOTATIONS,KF

Toby Maloney
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It's often called Canada's "miracle crop". It's marketed as a healthy alternative, and, for the moment, growers can even make a living. But is Canola oil actually healthy? And for whom? The name Canola, from "Canada oil", was the signal that some sophisticated marketing was going to take place. Canola was the first crop created modern plant breeding methods. It is usually credited to Baldur Stefanson at the University of Manitoba, who took rapeseeed, previously used as a lubricant in ship engines, and bred varieties that were low in erucic acid and glucosinates. In 1979 the Rapeseed Crushers Association decided the new "double low" varieties should be given a different name to avoid association with previous rapeseed products sold as cooking oil. It was no coincidence the new name rhymed with granola. As concerns over levels of saturated fat in other oil products grew, the new product entered the market as an alternative low in saturated fat, but high in desirable oleic acid. Demand skyrocketed and farmers rushed to buy seed.
But before we add the happy-ever-after to this technological tale, there are some important issues to consider. What might seem healthy for city dwellers to consume isn't necessarily healthy for people where it is grown, for workers who handle the materials used, or for the environment. A typical Canola crop starts with seeds treated with fungicide for seedling diseases, and often an insecticide to prevent damage from flea beetles. After the seedlings emerge, herbicides are applied to control weeds. Canola yields can also be affected by a variety of insect problems, for which the remedy is often aerial spraying, and a fungus problem just prior to harvest called Sclerotinia.
This focus on chemicals isn't that different from cereal crops that are grown conventionally and this is not to say that other oilseeds are any better.
The problem is that instead of finding ways to use less or no herbicides and a lot less fuel and synthetic fertilizer, we are promoting a crop that is very difficult to grow organically. Also, Canola is the first crop in Canada to receive a license for "transgenic" varieties - plants altered with genetic material from other plants or animals. Typically, the transgenic varieties are designed by chemical companies to require the application of their favorite brand of herbicide. Given the cancer risk, would you call a food crop that is increasingly dependent on herbicides, fungicides, and even aerial spraying of pesticides, "healthy?" While prairie provinces export thousands of tonnes of Canola oil (and they have begun to make a diesel fuel out of it), if you want to buy a quality cold pressed edible version, you're not going to find a prairie product. This to me is the equivalent of France selling no Champagne, no Beaujolais, just cheap plonk in screw top bottles.
In most cases the best ingredients in oil are seriously damaged or destroyed by the industrial-type processing that occurs. As detailed by oils expert Udo Erasmus, in his 1988 pamphlet Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill, most oil is refined with acids and the same base that unclogs drains. Then the bleaching process removes "every essential nutrient except fatty acids."
Then deodorization by steam distillation distorts some fatty acids into "trans-fatty acids" which interfere with beneficial ingredients in oils.

"But any of this is mostly irrelevant if we are eating deep-fried doughnuts or French Fries, or frying our food until the oil smokes or eating margarine made from hydrogenated oil".

And for most consumers that is their experience with Canola. And so it is only a cynical manipulation to promote the nutritional value of Canola, when the nutrients don't make it to the table. This manipulation -and the manipulation of seeds, of processes and commodities markets - is only possible because most of our population is no longer involved in food production. That's not healthy.
Toby Maloney is an environmental activist living Boissevain, in the southwestern Manitoba grain belt. This article first appeared in City Magazine. - NL -
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Falcon15 · Aug 18, 2011

tacmotusn said: ↑

How well does it mix with corn starch or flour for pan sauces after cooking with it? I love to do sauces after pan frying with a bit of the oil left over.
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Just like butter or shortening. I make gravies and sauces as normal.

tacmotusn · Aug 18, 2011

Falcon15 said: ↑

Just like butter or shortening. I make gravies and sauces as normal.
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Thanks! ...... Sweet!

Kingfish · Aug 21, 2011

Seawolf1090 said: ↑

Hehehe..... this article only verifies my desire to avoid Canola Oil whenever possible. Problem is, it is in most of the processed foods we consume. I found a new (to me) brand of Kettle Chips today at the office cafeteria. It was labeled as "Gluten Free" (good, as a buddy suffers from Celiac Disease and I try to use some GF products too), and as "All Natural". Imagine my dismay to find one of the ingredients - 'canola oil'..... dang, not so 'natural' then. It's off my list to buy.

IfI have trouble finding Coconut Oil locally, I may have to go 'old school'.... pig lard.

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As I agree with the parts about loss of nutritional value(due to hot processing) his statement still has truth when it comes to frying. When you fry with oil you kill any nutrition in ANY oil. Like I said I would not put canola on a salad or in a sauce. W e fry with it because it has less bad fats.

Like he states its all moot when its used over 375 degrees. You burn any oil out at that temp. But I agree in the sense that putting it on salad or making gravy from it would be bad. KF

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