Dumb f$cking idea!!!! Nevermind What is the feasibility of a community living off-grid in a SHTF scenario? Crazy, stupid, doable? I thought I'd throw this out here first, in case more information was needed about my town or whatever before going public if this is doable. Present population of 10,000. I would imagine not all will remain, if this happened. This is a small town that we grew up in and know quite a few folks, hard not to. The town I live in is surrounded by 2 fast flowing rivers and we receive 40"55" of rainfall. Most of the soil in this area is sandy loam and has some of the most fertile soil in the Willamette Valley. The types of fruits and vegetables that are already grown here is of a wide enough variety to more than sustain livability. I definitely need an Engineer's, Carpenter's, Lineman's and Electrician's prospective but not necessarily limited to those trades. Any and all opinions are appreciated, for all I know you may tell me I'm crazy. For those that do not know me, keep in mind I am a Plumber/Pipefitter with some knowledge of other trades but I am definitely lacking when it comes to electricity and the theory of it. Topics of discussion, possibly others that I may have over looked. Hydro-electric power, this is easy as far as a source goes. I am surrounded by water, literally. Obviously, infrastructure is already in place but am unsure what all is needed or if resources to do are within my town that could be acquired later. Obviously, this is something that could not be in place and would have to build later if things became lawless. There is a battery manufacturing plant within the town I live in. Existing domestic water supply system, possibly water treatment but I have a feeling sanitation/disinfection will need to be done in home rather than at source. As I know that it requires resources that might not be available later. The town already has a water tower, water source is deep water well and/or surface water, depending on time of year and demand. I have been collecting drawings/plans for water towers and water wheels and water filtration. Existing sewer, possibly waste water treatment but I have a feeling that it would need to be limited to gray water. The effluent from the waste water treatment plant disposes into a much larger river than the water source for water supply comes from. If the STHF for real I do not think polluting this river will be of much concern as just about every town upstream from me dumps their effluent into it. If this did happen most waste water treatment plants are probably going to overflow and dump raw sewage into this river anyway.