EMP, The Electromagnetic Pulse

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by oil pan 4, Jun 6, 2016.


  1. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior


    part of the problem discussing EMPs is that old old nuke info is used for foundation - there's enhanced specialty EMP nukes targeted now for first strike use - makes the EMP pulse off the old 1950s nukes look like fireworks ...

    the NORAD Cheyenne Mt facility was built & equipped for EMP protection >>> probably the best in country ... NORAD surfaced and recently went back under with it's command & control because of the new nuke threats >>>> spent a few billion $$$$ on updating & hardening against the new EMPs ...

    tin foil Christmas wrapping paper boxes for Faraday cages might suffice for solar flares or a terrorist nuke - but if you're serious about EMP prepping you should up your game ....
     
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  2. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Yeah detonate a thermo nuclear weapon at 250 km.
    All stuff that was discovered by these tests.
    Looks like there are many different levels of use. Set one off under or around 100,000ft or 30km you get the pulse that absolutly fries everything but the effective area is limited and time duration is short, as in its all over in a half second. Or a bigger one at 250 km that gives continental wide effects jamming communication for hours, frying the power grid and anything plugged into the power grid, damaging battery powered unprotected portable electronics, knocks out most if not all the polar orbit satellites and damages everything not in geosynchronous orbit or stereo orbit. Also has lingering effects to earths magnetic field and radiation belts that last years, but this doesn't appear to effect anything on the ground.

    You don't need a Faraday cage for solar flare.
     
  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    We have a geomagnetic storm going on that isn't from a solar flare, CME, plasma filament detach or coronal hole stream.
    Just magnetic connection to the sun.

    Can you say weakening geomagnetic field?
     
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  4. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Then what is the carrington effect ?
     
  5. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    It was likely a good size coronal mass ejection.
    It looks like the sun produces at least a few of these per solar cycle.
     
  6. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    Just for giggles, we have a Carrington size event (that hit's earth) about every 150 years. The Carrington event of course, was in 1859.
     
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I read a report that said every 100 to 150 years.
    Nasa says there is a 14% chance of one hitting every solar cycle or 11 years.
     
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  8. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Did not we just miss getting hit a few years ago? i think something like miss by 2 weeks or so.
     
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  9. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    2012 and it was a matter of only a few days IIRC
     
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  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    2017 a pretty good size one barely glanced the earth.

    The one in 2012 was aimed directly at the stereo A solar observer satellite. Which orbits 4 months ahead.
    That CME redefined what we thought the sun could do. It let loose a CME of several earth masses moving at the previously stated to be impossible speed of 7 million miles per hour.
    A direct earth impact would have ended civilization.
     
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  11. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Doesn't matter how others poo poo the possibilities I am using the precautions in the worst case scenario , others can gamble nothing will happen .
    I win either way.
     
  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    It's not a matter of "if", but "when", kind of like the Yellowstone caldera, only a little more likely to happen in our lifetime.
     
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  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Earth quake emp (like the earth quake lights be for an earthquake) or shoddy power grid?

     
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  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Earth's magnetic field weakness allows solar wind, not even any kind of solar storm to cause comms satellites to go down for a short period. It was in Australia so no one in the US herd about it.
    Its just before the 3 minute mark.


    This next solar cycle or 2 is going to suck. Little M class solar flares are going to cause major problems. During a strong solar maximum you barely go a week between M class flare hits. A and B class are just about daily.
     
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  15. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Folks should take a gander over at the videos on Suspicious 0bservers.

    pretty intesting suff almost every day. Ben is one of the few that walks his talk BTW.
     
  16. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

  17. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The first earth facing CME of solar cycle 25 is on its way. 3rd rate fake news outlets may pickup the story and say it's the end of the world. It's lower power and not a direct hit so it likely won't do anything.

    We know what these are now. Earth discharges.
     
  18. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Carrington level events (1859)

    New Youk railroad storm (1921) ('bigger' than the Carrington event)(New Studies Warn of Cataclysmic Solar Superstorms)

    August 1972 (Carrington level event) (On August 4, 1972, the storm caused the accidental detonation of numerous U.S. naval mines near Haiphong, North Vietnam. The coronal cloud's transit time from the Sun to the Earth is the fastest ever recorded)

    A measured look at the issue set (Solar induced eddy currents in the power grid)
    (Mythbusting: The "Carrington Event" and Solar Cycle Doom - Integrated Skills Group)

    With the still weakening geomagnetic field, a solar superstorm won't be needed to have a measurable effect.

    Toss in the fun of so-called "Superbolt" lightening and hailstones growing in size (due to solar forcing) and we have more to be concerned about/plan for than 'just' a power outage.

    Thanks to Obama and the greenies, natgas is now pumped and distributed with electric pumps. Parts of AZ and NM damn near froze to death not that long ago because of a lack of gas....(- NATURAL GAS SERVICE OUTAGES IN NEW MEXICO)
    (We've Seen The Electric Grid At Its Worst: How About The Gas Network?)
    this isn't / wasn't a supply issue or even infrastructure issues - it was stupid 'Green" policy where the aholes in DC didn't understand How Things Really Work.

    This winter could be real fun. I've stocked up on a bit more kero/#2 diesel for the monitor heater.
     
  19. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    The link is nothing but the Chinese food crisis and something about a UN conspiracy.
     
  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    here it is

    adapt2030 and iceage farmer are kind of the same
     
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    EMP theory 2018-04-11

    Stumbled across this while looking for old schematics.
    Posted By: Lancer, Apr 11, 2018 in category: Communications
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