Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by hunterp, Nov 2, 2014.
neat video. getting out of nyc would not be easy.
If it was the summertime, I would take my bicycle since I don't own a car. But it is winter, so I will have to hitch a ride.
My sister lived in stamford ct and would commute into the city during the week. When 9-11 happened she was in lower Manhattan when the 1st plane it. She called my dad and he told her to get the flock out of there, when the second plan hit she called back and my dad talked her as she walked back to her place in upper part of manhattan. I do not worry about her too much now because she no longer lives on the east coast. Preparing for emergencies while living in mahattan must be a real challenge.
Wow. Glad she is ok. Yeah. Much respect to the FDNY, I lived by a fire station for a few years, made friends with lots of them.
Thank you. She worked for merrill and lost someone she was close to. Been to nyc three times since then and never went to see ground zero, did not want to. You should just move out west, the money is not as good but the options for outdoor activities blows the east coast away, so much public land. Good luck to you bro, there are good people here
Hehehe....I lived in the rockies and in Cali for about 8 years. Back in NYC to get stuff done. But I'll move away again, no doubt.
Have you considered learning cross country skiing and gearing up for that method of extraction.... If I were you, that is a good method of moving quickly over snow covered areas.... even city streets...which with the right set up should get you down the road with a certain quickness!! Just an opinion from my sky box
Not bad video, but I prefer this Nutnfancy series:
"Concept U.S.K." Surviving Urban Disaster Pt 1
Uploaded on Jan 10, 2010
Part 1: Sometimes the city is a bad place to be. But millions find themselves linked to the city, living, working, or recreating. Cessation of services, terrorists attacks, economic or governmental collapse, rioting (for a variety of reasons), and devastating NATURAL disasters can transform a usually-bustling and mostly safe urbanscape into a wasteland where emergency services are either overwhelmed or just unavailable. You may quickly find your survival (and those around you) will be up to you. Go prepared, both with a calm, can-do mindset that will allow you to overcome, adapt, and survive bad situations (and help others to do the same). In this series of vids, I introduce my "Concept USK" or Urban Survival Kit and its philosophy as requested by many TNPrs. A possible motto as you work your way through urban chaos: "Prepare, Survive, Render Aid, Lead." Some Nutnfancy foundations of the review: most kits will evolve according to need and technology, a kit will have to be personalized for your situation, adherence to legalities of some contents is your responsibility, it's impossible to prepare for every contingency and SAWC (Space/Size And Weight Constraints) will dictate your level of preparation and kit "depth," preparations for self-defense are wise, the necessity to blend in and not draw attention to yourself, the concepts of "write-off," re-stocking, pre-postioning, and redundancy in kit preparation, and guidelines for use. In Part 1 these foundations are discussed and then the item by item review commences starting with carry case considerations and water considerations. Use of defensive and non-lethal OC or pepper spray is shown and discussed (other defensive options shown later) in realistic terms (larger container preferred in urban settings). In a confusing urban survival situation, information could be critical and several items are carried to help improve your "intelligence" gathering including optics (binos, monocular; optional) and a transistor radio for news reports (several models shown). Kit sub-containers and organization discussed too as we approach the review of the Comms Kit. Execution for the USK will take planning, work, and some money (especially applying the "write-off" principle). Currently it is impossible to purchase a serious USK with these capabilities so you will have to make it. But it will give a sense of capability and hope to its user and just may carry him through the day. Sobering possibilities are discussed by necessity but the "USK Concept" is a message of hope and self-reliance."
I have prepared much of this list in our family bug out bag:
"Concept U.S.K." Surviving Urban Disaster Pt 2
Uploaded on Jan 11, 2010
"See Part 1 for USK Series intro. Part 2 and 3: DETAILED KIT CONTENTS, Of course all items are subject to improvement, change, or discontinuance by the manufacturer: CARRY CASES: Small day pack (Kelty "Cadence" model used here, 1700 cubes. 2 main compartments), zipped organization pouches, Columbia® Toiletry Valet. COMMS: Survival crank radio or small transistor radio (AA variety like Sony Panasonic RF-P50, Sony ICF-S10MK2, Grundig Mini-300 or similar are good options), 2-way AA cell-capable radios (Motorola #MR351R shown) with 550 cord lanyards, mini polycarbonate signal mirror (Gerber shown, "Ultimate Survival" brand good too), flare pen or gyro jet with extra flares (optional; also hand held compact signal flares), 2 loud whistles (options: Fox, WindStorm, NRS Storm Safety-brand whistles, 'Ray Gonia' dog training whistle), 2 fine tip black Sharpie® markers, Post Its®, index cards, waterproof paper (Write in the Rain), Fenix L1D and LD20 AA multi-mode flashlights with light cones (red, white), Fenix light headband, Streamlight Stylus Pro penlight, 8 (min) lithium AA and 4 (min) AAA batteries (Energizer Ultimate Lithium shown). PROTECTIVE GEAR: heavy leather gloves (Petzl rapelling gloves shown, any high quality can work), 4 pair disposable Nitrile exam gloves, safety glasses, sun glasses, dust masks (2 min), foam ear plugs (3 pair), respirator if SAWC permits (AO Safety® model shown), sunscreen, chapstick, disposable plastic poncho or rain suit, skull cap, sweat band, Adventure Medical Kits Thermo-Lite 2 Bivy bags (1 small, 1 large). TOOLS: Leatherman Super Tool 300 (or equivalent), pry bar (options: Stanley "Wonder Bar II," 10'/25cm "Claw Bar"), multi-bit drivers (like Stanley #68-107 Fiberglass Screwdriver), gas shutoff wrech (not shown), heavy wire, heavy duty aluminum foil, Gorilla® brand duct tape, 3M® electrical tape, mini hacksaw (like Stanley MiniHack #20-807 shown), spring loaded punch, 100 ft 550 nylon cord wrapped on tempered hardboad winder, 25 ft heavy duty nylon cord (on exterior to case belay and lashing), portable saw if SAWC permit, dedicated wire snips, 1 small can WD-40, Stanley Stanley #10-16 Utility knife with extra blades (or Gerber EAB model, reviewed), dedicated mini-scissors (Gerber shown), flint and steel (like "Light My Fire" brand shown, "Ultimate Survival" brand Sparkie also excellent), 2 to 4 packs Trioxane fuel bars, adjustable flame lighter, REI "Lifeboat" matches. SELF DEFENSE: large OC pepper spray container (as big as SAWC allow; UDAP® brand 8 oz bear spray excellent), pry bar, folding tactical/utility blade (Buck Vantage Select shown, many other great options reviewed), Kel-Tec P3-AT .380 auto pistol with extra mag, 50 rds minimum 90 gr Federal HydraShok® ammo, Uncle Mikes Size 10 ankle holster & belt holster (Fobus also good), spare mag case ("RIPOFF" brand shown), mid-size survival knife (options: Ontario SP-17, CS SRK, KaBar Combat, Fallkniven A1, Randall RC-5,etc). MEDICAL: Level 1 Nutnfancy First Aid Kit (see review). WATER: Katadyn Hiker water filter, Nalgene folding Wide-Mouth Cantene 96 oz #2595-0096, coffee or paint screen pre-filters, collapsible backpacking bucket. FOOD: As many energy/candy bars (solid chocolate store best) that SAWC allow, 2 freeze-dried meals, MSR "Pocket Rocket" stove, propane fuel cartridge, tin can/canteen cup/titanium cup with lid, salt packets in plastic baggy. MISC: miniature playing cards, thermo compass, alcohol swabs, Scott-brand blue shop towels, Kleenex®, Kirtland-brand Household anti-bacterial wipes in baggy. PREPOSITIONALBES: Xootr scooter in travel bag (compact, fast, maneuverable escape vehicle, 5 times faster than walking), Rapelling gear (Blue Water brand 150' kernmantle rope preferred, US Army 120' surplus rope ok too; good for 9 or so story escape only though), Rescue 8, carabiners, Rapelling seat, Sport Parachute, strap adjusted, ready"
Mine was 3 minutes.... yours was 44..... just trying to convey and idea for rapid movement per the specific issue..... but great vid from what I have seen so far @AmericanRedoubt1776 .... I will finish watching it later tonight.... thanx!
Only nutnfancy can make three 50 minute videos (1.5 hours!) On a bugout bag and still be interesting.
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