FBI Raids Home of Dangerous Doomsday Prepper

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Yard Dart, Jun 24, 2014.

  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    FBI Raids Home of Dangerous Doomsday Prepper: Agents Find Legally Owned Firearms, Barrels of Food |

    Word of the day= OPSEC..... [peep]
    Stop talking to your friends and neighbors about what you are doing, unless they are onboard with your plan. This guy was ratted out by someone he thought he could trust.... you just never know. Grey man rules apply every day!! IMO
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  2. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Doomsday prepper Martin Winters surrenders, held without bail | Tampa Bay Times
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Confidential Informants can be your friend and neighbors... Learn to keep you Private Family stuff Close to the vest, and for REAL, If you are going to make Destructive Devices, do NOT go bragging about it... You will end up like this Yahoo.... In the GrayBar Hotel, and out a lot of LawDog Fees.... OPSEC Rules...
    I mean, Duh.... Or is that Doh.....
  4. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Agreed with all so far in this thread....OPSEC should be common sense.
    However...I want to also point your attention to the RAT society/Social Engineering/Culture that YOU are letting evolve around you.
    Crimestoppers tip line PAYS.
    Being an informant PAYS.
    Living in fear and running to the AUTHORITIES to protect you from everything is standard operating procedure.
    "THEY have 911 for a REASON."
    YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOURSELF or speak out against authority man...you pay them too much to protect you. Make sure you get your fiat moneys worth....(nothing)

    Consider how tempting it would be for someone on welfare to rat a "suspicious gun owner" out if they thought there was any change of a "crimestoppers" or "tip hotline" reward MORE than their welfare cheque?

    Ya...think aboot that while you import a generation of welfare voters via open borders justified by "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS".'



    Last edited: Jun 25, 2014
  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    It's both Duh and Doh! Damned sloppy!!

    And never in the open forum, either!
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  6. ditch witch

    ditch witch I do stupid crap, so you don't have to

    I would change that to CIs ARE ALWAYS your friends and neighbors. Had a criminal justice class in college taught by an old, rather bitter ex-cop who liked to say if it wasn't for pissed off girlfriends, a lot more crime would go unsolved. And growing up in the 'burbs taught me well that the neighbor who smiles and waves every day is the same one that calls the cops every time you park your car an inch past his property line, don't mow your grass fast enough to suit him, or have a dog that barks.
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  7. Toad

    Toad Monkey+

    Something to remember - "The News Media is the Nation's fifth columnist" now. The boot is on the neck of free speech and Conservatives.
  8. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    The guy was a blowhard. He obviously was not a true prepper because he forgot #1 rule- keep your cards close.
  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    If I was this idiots, LawDog, I would be DEMANDING that the Judge who issued the Warrant, be hauled up in front of a Judicial Review Board... because he swallowed the Warrant Affidavits, "Hook, Line, and Sinker" and it turned out to be PURE BS.....

    Being a NutJob, does NOT mean you lose your Constitutional Rights..... You do actually have to "Do something, illegal" and so far No Physical Evidence has been found, ANYWHERE..... It is all based on BS Information for a CI.....
  10. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    And as for the CI, how many people could he have sold devices to (assuming that part is true). The CIs name would be all over the interwebs if it had happened to me.

    If not true, civil suit time. Sue the cops to get the LIARS name and then OWN him or her.
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  11. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    You won't own him for long, his cohorts will take care of their problem right smartly. If he leaks for one, he'll leak for more.
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  12. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Good way to check in at the "Grey bar motel" is to brag about what you may or may not have. Either way is an open invitation for harassment from the alphabet boys/girls.
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  13. Pineknot

    Pineknot Concrete Monkey

    The larger problem, is being criminalized just because you are prepared for some type of event, in Florida it's hurricanes, the local governments tell you to be prepared, have plenty of food and water. In the last decade the gulf state have been through devastating hurricane that crippled the food and water supply for months, people in some cases became somewhat of savages trying to get water and food. Being prepared is not a bad thing and the government should support that, but the police state were is forcing a dependent population, oh well take care of you we have a plan and we are prepared. Hello that's all we want too, is to be prepared and not be dependent. In five years I would like to look back and say man I thought the shit was gonna hit the fan but I afraid that want be my observation
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  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
  15. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Oh, don't be so sure. Having been over most of the world, and seen more destruction than I'd like, it is those who are prepared that have the least problems. OTOH those you know might consider a minor hurricane a real disaster because they did not have food or water and needed meds. While all you needed to do was stay home or in place and wait for the weather to clear.

    Been there, always stayed safe so far.
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  16. Pineknot

    Pineknot Concrete Monkey

    I am referring to the general populous on the disaster definition. I personally agree with you. The thing is, and my point to make, is that the sheeple simply want the gov to have everything ready and prepared for them instead of having a plan of there own. I personally think planning and preparing is the most fun, until you have to implement lol
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  17. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    That's the fun part, when you you have to implement. Then you set back and watch all the idjuts!
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  18. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Darn I would hate to be a Mormon in his AO....
  19. magnus

    magnus Monkey

    The first rule of prepping is; "Never tell anybody your preps".
    Also, if you join a group of preppers, hold back an emergency stash of food, clothes, 1st aid kit,
    firearm/ammo, survival gear just in case. And then don't tell anybody.
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