I lurk and read more on survival type sites than I do post but I thought this observation was worth pointing out- In pretty much all the survival type sites discussions like "What gun is best" or "Defending your home" or better yet, "What's in your BOB?" are by far the most popular. Now don't get me wrong, I like guns as much as the next guy but in an actual EOTWAWKI type situation wouldn't your ability to grow, preserve, harvest, etc and your DIY type skills be more important? Say some virus ravages the world, there's looting and fun fighting while most people die, plain and simple. You use your guns to protect yourself for that first bad month or six months.. then for the rest of your life your skills at raising and just as importantly preserving food would be your most valuable assets I would think right? I would think that experts on apple orchards or carpentry would be more valuable in the long run than experts on fire arms. I guess I see plenty of short term situations like Katrina where fire arms would be super important but with the decline of America, the dollar losing value, and we are all becoming poorer it seems with every passing year.... I don't know, I just don't understand why there is 99 discussions about ammo or BOBs for every one discussion on gardens.