Guns to acquire Pre-SHTF

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Coyote Ridge, Aug 21, 2019.


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  1. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    A caveat to air guns --I initially wanted to mention it because of its usefulness to procure small game, the ease of finding pellets locally, and the fact that it's not a regulated firearm, and would be very unlikely to be. As for caliber, that's a personal decision, but the .177 and .22 are widely found, the break open barrel are possibly the best and most reliable among their class, as the pump type are prone to breaking after hard use, and larger calibers are fantastic if only they were priced more affordably and ammo was more readily available. In any case, it's worth rounding out your collection to suit your perceivable needs if that's the way you want to go. :cool:
     
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  2. Waydah

    Waydah Monkey

    I enjoy hunting, both mentally and physically. I understand what an asset it is likely to be in augmenting other food supplies during hard times. Healthy food, organic, and FREE... other than the time spent, which brings up what I think is an important issue... time.
    During a SHTF event of any consequence time will be very limited. Lots going on and lots to do. There just may not be enough time to hunt, even if you have a place to hunt, and most may not, with all the other pressing responsibilities and demands on your time. A very good option is traps. Traps hunt 24/7 seven days a week. Those who live in areas where hunting, especially with a firearm, make be difficult or even impossible could still trap. Having an assortment of traps, including snares, of various sizes could produce more food than hunting. I know this thread concerns firearms, but don't overlook the advantages of trapping.
     
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  3. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    As far as hunting goes if you are in even a lightly populated area game will disappear pretty quickly. After that it will eventually rebound after things get resolved or their is enough human die off if it doesn't.
     
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  4. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Krieg Hündchen

    It has. And thanks.
     
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  5. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    So basically any gun you have is good. Better than none! Just make sure someone is awake at the witching hour. A term kids use for 3 AM. That's when the criminals figure everyone's asleep.
     
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  6. Big Ron

    Big Ron Monkey+++

    I have always told people they should exercise their rights and at least own a pump shotgun. various loads make it versatile.
     
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  7. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    I keep looking at that title and thinking of different answers to the question.

    Here are a few that stand out:

    Common caliber guns.
    Interchangeable parts guns
    Duplicate guns
    Trading guns
    Throw-away/buy-back guns
    Investment guns (seen a $35 91/30 or a $50 SKS lately? Me neither.)
    Accurate guns
    Concealable guns
    Youth guns
    Air guns
    Black powder guns
    and some fun guns. (Plinkers, odd caliber, strange action, nostalgic, impractical guns that make you smile.)
     
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  8. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    In and old book titled Survival Guns by Mel Tappan old Mel advocates having 2 sets of guns. 1 set was for defense and the other was working guns. I've taken this approach and so far it's worked for my needs. You can still find copies of the book. Although it's a bit dated (1979) the information is still valid today.
     
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  9. Zimmy

    Zimmy Wait, I'm not ready!

    I'd suggest any repeating pistol and rifle that a person has great proficiency with would be first choice. That would stay the choice until great proficiency was built with a new and better substitute.

    If you know nothing about guns you need to buy as high a quality weapon as you can with 20% of the available money and spend the rest on quality training.
     
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  10. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    I would also recommend having small quantities of ammo for guns that you might not own...now. I believe that after SHTF that there are going to be plenty of guns, especially odd calibers, that will become available... one way or another. It would be a shame to come across a K-98/8mm or Enfield/.303 and not have a few rounds for these fine weapons. The same goes for magazines.
     
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  11. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    should already be re-loading - if there's any chance of running across some iron in a caliber outside your usual >>> prep for it instead of investing in factory loads ...
     
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  12. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Getting sum guns is easy.
    Making them silent, or at least some of them silent should be the ultimate goal.
     
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  13. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+++

    Sound suppressors are NOT that quite, everyone within range of that weapon is going to know that it has just been fired. If you want quite get a crossbow.
     
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  14. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I was thinking more like not letting other people who may be several hundred yards or up to a few miles away know you are shooting a gun.
    For example my neighbor who I am good buddies with warned me our closes neighbors call the cops when he shoots his shot gun.
    I shoot suppressed subsonic 22LR and never been visited by the cops.

    So we have 2 possibilities.
    1 The neighbor doesn't hear it at all, which I believe is most likely the case, especially with my gemtech mist 10/22.
    2 He does hear it and believes he is not hearing firearm noises or assumes it is much further away than it really is.
    End result is the same.
     
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  15. STGThndr

    STGThndr Monkey+

    I hold with modern firearms and ample ammo and magazines. I also hold with long term- flint lock rifle, shotgun and pistols. Primitive and simpler to keep supplied down the road.
     
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  16. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    Hears my take on the subject, one at least needs a basic 5 gun battery. 1 Shotgun in 12 guage. This will solve a lot of problems. Pick your action. 2 A 22lr rimfire rifle, small game, pest control and a training aid for the bigger stuff. This is where things start to get interesting. 3 Handgun, whether an auto loader or wheel gun it does one thing the others can't. And that is be on you at all times. CC or open carry. 4 Battle rifle, AR,AK,SKS,M1,don't matter which one as long as you can use it. 5 Bolt action rifle, big game and counter sniping . Get a really good scope and get dialed in. JMHO.
     
  17. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey+++

    I have acquired odd ball stuff as it presents itself. Any gun with 50 to 100 rounds f ammo will be worth it weight in gold for trade. Some will own lots of fuel,gas station owners, and will trade 100 gallons for a gun and ammo, so any cheap gun is worth having
     
  18. Gray Wolf

    Gray Wolf Monkey+++

    If you trade firearms and ammo, you may get the bullets back. Not a good idea in a shtf scenario.
     
  19. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    can't be a hard & fast solid rule >>> need to use common sense and balance it out ....
    if you're smart you'll gather around and solidify the relationships you already have - and they might need help in defending themselves >>> the egg farmer that you'll be trading with has some guns but like most has little ammo - the guy at the junkyard has nothing but a breaker bar >>> your neighborhood will likely be a hodgepodge of a defense where a few boxes of 00Buck and a single gun donation could make all the difference ....
     
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  20. Gray Wolf

    Gray Wolf Monkey+++

    It's another matter if it's part of your clan/community, but with strangers?
    I read an account of a family in Bosnia that traded ammo, and buried a couple of their family members because of it.
     
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