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Japan is making me rethink things

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by cool hand luke, Mar 16, 2011.

  1. cool hand luke

    cool hand luke Monkey+

    The recentvents in japan have made me really rethink things, and probably not in the way you expect.

    I'm pretty amazed at he relative calm that has been reported so far with no widespread looting or riots. I had thought that the combo if events would have broken down society much further than what I have seen.

    Do you think this is due to the Japanese culture/people?

    If this had happened to California would Chaols be more widespread?
  2. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Culture has a HUGE impact on how people respond. See WWII America and compare that to the culture surrounding people now.
  3. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    If this happened in Cali, or anywhere there are a large number of Gubbermint benefit recipients, the Chaos would be downright insane. Take in example three things: The Harlem Riots, The Rodney King Riots, and the aftermath of Katrina in New Orleans.
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  4. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    Answer 1: Yes...it is a cultural reflection of their morals and ethics. Death before disgrace & dishonor.

    Answer 2: Think Katrina. Different players, same game plan. Think Rodney King + a new generation of not so american so-called americans who came from south of the border with far different morals & ethics than those living in California in the 1980s.
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  5. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Not to put a Racist or Political Bent on it, but you really do not see these kinds of acts happening in the more Educated, and Moneyed Neighborhoods. The reasons why are fairly self-evident. These folks do not have time for such foolishness, as they are AT WORK, making a living, and living a productive LIFE..... as with all my posts this is just MY Opinion, based on observations, from my lifetime. YMMV
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  6. fireplaceguy

    fireplaceguy Monkey+

    I considered starting an extremely politically incorrect thread about this exact thing. I would have called it something like "the benefits of cultural cohesiveness and minimal racial diversity" or some such...

    Per Wikipedia, the ethnic makeup of Japan is as follows: 98.5% Japanese, 0.5% Korean, 0.4% Chinese, 0.6% other. The first number is the only one that matters. (I know there is stratification within the Japanese population, but nothing like that which divides whites, blacks and hispanics in America.) The absence of looting, arson and other crime in Japan is, in my opinion, due entirely to the fact that Japan is a mono-cultural and mono-racial nation.

    Two events others have already mentioned leave me pessimistic about how things will play out here in America. First is 9/11, in the aftermath of which we briefly looked like a civil society. For a moment I thought America might pull back together, but that civility unraveled quickly. In retrospect, it's clear that nothing really changed, and my perceptions of togetherness were mostly due to certain groups wisely staying quiet for a few weeks. Since then, our divisions are not just back - they have grown much worse.

    The second event is, of course, Katrina. The lesson I draw from that is what to expect from America's growing dependent class when the transfers they believe themselves entitled to finally disappear.

    Japan is quite fortunate to have remained one people and one culture.
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  7. cool hand luke

    cool hand luke Monkey+

    Well thanks for bumming me out. Maybe we should change our bug out plans to just getting to japan.
  8. hedger

    hedger Monkey+

    Falcon Got It Right

    I agree with Falcon.

    If this happened in the USA, I'd be worried as much about whether I have enough ammo as I would about food & water.

    Unfortunately, we have a predictable history when disaster occur--and looting and bad guys acting out are the most obvious bad side of this.
  9. Nevin

    Nevin Monkey+

    If this happened in the California, I'd be stressed about keeping my family safe even though I live sooo far away from there. I know my mother would break down because we have family there. I know this is something we all have to face in a sense so that we can be prepared, but thinking about it make me sick. The severity of what happened in Japan happening here...God.

    Forgive me, still kinda new to prepping...
  10. RightHand

    RightHand Pioneer in a New World Moderator Founding Member

    You may be new to prepping Nevin but you're not too late. Read, ask questions, and begin your preps. Prepping is a mindset that grows stronger as you learn more. Don't be overwhelmed by the information you will read here. Start with the basics and build from there. We're glad to have you with us.
  11. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Yea Nevin, I wish you ad stuck around in flashchat.... I would have liked to chat with you... Welcome to the Monkey House....
  12. Ajax

    Ajax Monkey++

    It's a cultural thing. There is very little street crime in Japan. Really a lot of Americans are the same way, look at the differences between the flooding in Nashville vs. Katrina and how the locals acted, much different, much different culture of people.

    It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the culture, morals and the way people are brought up. The sad thing is no matter where you live if the SHTF there are going to be dregs of society in every state and town. Some places will be much worse I am sure.

    On a side note, there was a case in Japan where people went to an evacuation center, not related to the current incident, this happened years ago, and several women were raped. There is also a problem with girls being molested on packed subway trains. It's a weird contradiction really, very low street crime and no looting but women are molested on a regular basis on trains.
  13. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    A remote location is the best protection. A monkey said that.
  14. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    The exact quote is "Remote locations are cheap insurance."

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  15. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I would say, Not necessarily "Cheap" but Insurance just the same... It costs a little MORE, to live very far out, but there are many compensations, for doing so..... If you can, and your lifestyle allows for it, you will almost automatically be a Prep'er, by default.....
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  16. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    How many needless murders have happened over a pair of tennis shoes, sports apparel or any other highly sought after item?

    Look at how some people in this country act over being first in line at a Black Friday sale at Wal-Mart.

    Ever had somebody about push you over trying to get in front of you at the grocery store.

    As others had mention about natural disaster and riots that have taken place. Now imagine today's society in complete turmoil with shortages of food, water and/or fuel on a national scale. Society has gone mad.

    Make sure to stock up on ammo along with all your other provisions. You just might need it some day.

    We can only wish our country had the same mannerisms and respect for one another as Japan. Japan is way more civilized than we are, sad indeed.
  17. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++

    +1 the proof is in the puddin....

    Now your onto something!!![yack] SAKE!!!
  18. Wolfgang2000

    Wolfgang2000 Monkey++

    In 65 Hurricane Betsy did the same thing to New Orleans. Then it's population was 1.5 million, it was mostly a middle class city, And president Johnson's welfare society hadn't come into play yet.

    People helped people, family helped family, Church's and the Boy Scouts sent teams and troops in to help everybody. You didn't have the death toll because thousands of people with boats went and evacuated the people on the roofs.

    Jump to 2003. NO is population approx 700,000, with a large majority of that being of entitlement mentality. Johnson's "new society" is going strong. People believe that it's the government JOB to take care of them. They shouldn't even have to walk to the shelter, someone should come get them. Actually the Super dome was taken OFF the list of shelters because when Hurricane George came though ,even though it was a nonevent, those people did 3 million dollars worth of damage in 12 hrs.

    Most people don't know that after Katrina, there was a line 2 miles long of people with boats wanting to help, but weren't allowed in. The news didn't tell you, that annex building next to the dome, there were people waiting for relief, had the same supplies as the dome, but did the cleaning themselves, were orderly etc, didn't have any deaths or crime.

    When the first set of "evacuees" hit Gonzales, LA (about 40 miles north of NO) those people started roaming the neighborhoods breaking into cars etc. My son lives about 8 miles from that center, had no issues till the evacuees started in his neighborhood.

    When the evacuees hit Baton Rouge the SRT team had to be call out the to stop the robbing and stealing. My Son called me from his wife's office. They had shutdown downtown BR but his wife couldn't leave. All the cops were tied up. He followed my instructions, got him and his wife out of there, then forted up with other family members.

    The point behind this story is, that people that or raised up with morals and responsibility, weather adversity, and act calmly, and with charity.

    Those that aren't, well that act like heathens. Everyone needs to evaluate their area, HONESTLY! Be prepared for what will come.
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