Loss of Power/Home Heating- Are you Prepared?!

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Yard Dart, Nov 13, 2014.


  1. jimLE

    jimLE Monkey+++

    we have the Brita-pitcher already..i just need to get around to getting new filters for it.1 for instant use.and some for later on..and as for the life straws go.they'll be bought next.and they'll be for back up for when needed.and will be in with bug out items..
     
  2. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    When we moved into our BOL home on the lake I had one plan for heat and it was a free standing wood stove that would keep the house warm without electricity. That was the plan from the get go and will always be our method of home heating. Wood is my greatest resource here as I am surrounded by thousands of acres of federal oak forests. I use the Osburn 2000 steel wood stove. We get 10 hour burn times and it keeps our small two story walkout basement ranch cozy all winter. My stove sits in the basement where it gets good draft from a basement fireplace and exhausts through a triple walled steel pipe.
     
  3. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    An electric drip coffee maker can be modded into a functional water filter. Use two paper filters, put an inch of activated charcoal in the bottom, cover with coarse sand. Not as good as a Berkey but a lot cheaper.
    Berkey type filter candles are available separately, for building your own DIY Berkey using stainless steel pots or clean plastic buckets (food grade).
     
  4. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    ...aka cheaping yourself to death.
     
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  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I have two RV 12V batteries and a 2KW inverter to drive my pellet stove and 40 bags of pellets. After that it is out to the 5th wheel to use up the 20 gallons of propane. After that we're down to wearing our heavy coats and long under ware. Those pellets will last 80 days if I am conservative. If I block off the rest of the house (the plan), I could double that to 160 days. Cooking on butane single burner hot plates or if worse conditions persist, on an outdoor hobo, rocket or gasifier stove.

    I can recharge the pellet stove batteries and increase their capacity by changing (rotating) them out with the truck batteries. That will last as long as I have diesel in the truck.
     
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  6. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    When it comes to heat we are in pretty good shape. We have a wood stove that is piped into our existing heating ducts and a couple of propane space heaters (one is a Big Buddy, the other an older open flame unit that I use in the barn). We also have a small travel trailer with a propane furnace. I try to keep about 4 cords of firewood on hand plus 100lb of propane...so we should be good for even a bad winter here.
     
  7. luv2ride

    luv2ride Monkey++

    I've got kerosene back up right now, I am going to put in propane this year. I can't have a wood stove due to Ins. reasons. Long term... SHTF, I'm not going to care about what my Ins. says.
     
  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    I have a big cylindrical kero heater and have a few gallons of kero stored. But it is an emergency system I haven't used.
    Nice to have ready though. If we get an arctic blizzard in Florida I am ready! ;)
     
  9. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I have been wondering about this and what people do when they live in the city. I think if you lived in a high-rise, having a generator on your balcony would not please your neighbors. I think most apartment buildings, do not have back-up power. How do you stay warm during an outage when you live on the 3rd floor etc.?
     
  10. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Been around wood heat for most of my life, until about 15, never lived in a house without wood heat as the only source of heat. For longer term survival with wood heat, start with the chimney. Doesn't do any good to have wood heat if your are dead or outside looking at the smoking ruins. That is not meant as a joke either. My personnel choice is buy a good airtight stove with a re burn system and bite the bullet. Costs as much as a good rifle, lasts 20 + years, gets 50 % or more heat out of the wood, will burn for 12 hours and keep the house warm In New Hampshire. I don't like to burn wood that hasn't dried for at least a year, so you should have 2 years wood as a minimum. I prefer to have 3 or 4. Some of my friends swear by the russian or finnish mass heaters. They burn hot for a short time and then re heat the house with heat from the thermal mass. If starting from scratch, I would sure try out some of the new rocket stoves built on a design that heats a mass of something and releases the heat over a period of time and would love to hear from anyone who has heated with one for a few years. That said I have used 55 gal drum and a shaker box stove to survive the winter and both worked. Take a lot more fuel, a lot more care, and are dangerous, but they will keep you alive.
     
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  11. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I lived in apartments on and off as a kid and figured out pretty quickly I would never be an apartment dweller.

    For heat when the power goes out, 4 years ago I installed an all mechanical simple pilot light ignition heater in our house. After the forced air heater we had previously suffered an electrical failure, which was pretty much had the same effect as the power being shut off to it. Luckily for me I had two 40lb propane tanks and a 10,000btu/hr inferred heater.
    This year I want to add two 40lb tanks.
     
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  12. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Big Buddy Portable Heater
     
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  13. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    It says it runs on propane but also requires D batteries. Sounds great but what if you run out of batteries? Is it still a good unit? Also, I notice with electric heaters that the floor gets warm in front of them. What do you set yours on so the floor is protected?
     
  14. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    No solution comes without the need for some additional supporting preps. Spare batteries, spare propane, some fire tiles, etc. Even if you had a fireplace or wood stove, you'd still need fuel to burn, a method of ignition, clean-up and maintenance supplies, etc.

    The batteries are just for the fan...it works fine without the fan, but doesn't circulate the air. You could always improvise with a nice fan dance or a bicycle on a trainer or whatever your creative widdle mind can come up with to move the air. ;-)
     
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  15. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Thank you for this ^^ that was what I was wondering. If it is a small enough space, the fan is not really needed
     
  16. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Got to thinking about the pellet stove and power to run it .
    Seems to me that if you had a pellet stove with 12 volt DC motors for the fan and augers,
    one might be able to have battery bank powered by "TEG thermal panels on the stove" for charging the battery bank which would power the fan and augers , and possibly more.
    I plan to get some of those TEG thermal panels and supplement my own charging system .
     
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