Monkey Down...Lessons Learned

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Yard Dart, Nov 25, 2019.

  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    So as everyone here knows, we lost our valuable information archive for a period......
    What lessons have been learned by all?


    What are you doing now to have hard copies, downloads ect, compared to the past?
  2. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    I've always saved important digital info to a LOCAL backup, sometimes two.
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    or three, all on different media types....
  4. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    You mean my erudite fascinating posts could have been lost forever???

    I back up my more contentious posts jjust in case they get moderated out of existence. ;)
  5. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    or four, all on different media types.... as @BTPost said
  6. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Thank you for all the hard work. Trying to get all the resources I want on memory sticks and then onto hard drive with EMP storage spare hard drive. Not really RAID storage, but different systems. Learned the hard way over last 30 years that I don't want systems, I want files. DOS games anyone? Loved them but didn't translate well into new systems, and so on.

    Bison Prepper talks about the internet kill switch. Doesn't matter if it exists or not, crashes, system changes, providers merging and going out of business, hackers, government control and peeking, etc, as far as I am concerned, if it isn't on a file on a hard storage device that is separate from the internet and totally under my control, it is only a handy way to pass time. The Squirrel, the loss of Jerry's site, a hacker attack that crashed my system, changing systems from Digital, IBM, and all the Microsoft changes, have forced me to store things I want as files or PDF's on my own systems and to treat all the rest as handy tools to browse, assemble and collect information.

    Don't believe in nor use the cloud, all my friends using their tablets with almost no on device storage, may well see the cloud vanish over the horizon and also have the added benefit of everyone being able to see their cloud information and search thru it at will.
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2019
  7. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Everything I've ever done here is in .pdf format or saved in my cranium. [loco]
    Folks are also welcome to repost anything they want on the SM2 site just in case. For the record, over there we don't lock the site down because a security cert runs out and throw our hands up in the air like Chicken Little and claim the CIA is coming to kill us if we don't erase all of our private messages. [haay]

    We just [beer] and occasionally perhaps [stoner] and also do a little [do-it] or maybe [ghrit] and then fuck off to [bedtime].
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  8. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Back-up external HD, 32 Gig jump drive, same to DVD.. . Nothing in the Cloud..
  9. Lancer

    Lancer TANSTAFL! Site Supporter+++

    The cloud technologies allow me to be paid quite well: but I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. EVERYTHING that isn't local, and disconnected doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned. Hard copies are the best, followed by USB sticks, and elderly, but easy to connect and read IDE drives. As an old friend, ex-US Army Intel told me - "a computer with a bullet hole in it is a door stop. A map or other document with the same hole is still a map."
  10. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    @Brokor that aint wut happened.

    that agency was not mentioned. not by me anyhow.

    please stop making assumptions without knowing the truth and the whole truth.
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  11. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter+++

    Backed up to 3 two terabyte external hard drives kept in different physical locations that I frequent. And am printing out as FRN's are available for ink and paper.
  12. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    If everything does fall apart, for the long run the one book of tech I hope makes it after all the computers die, is Grey's Book of Anatomy, might not recreate civilization, but would keep a lot of people alive, that and the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. I hope that in the long run, the whole electronics-computer thing actually means something. Never forgot that we forgot how to make concrete for over 1,000 years and that the billions that have died over time, from the works of Marx, different religious leaders, different demigogs, etc.
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  13. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    I'm keeping my tin foil hat by the way
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  14. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    I have maybe 500 files on pin drives and two systems....
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  15. Wild Trapper

    Wild Trapper Pirate Biker

    I save and backup all the pictures I post on my coffee thread.
  16. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Please take this to a PM.
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  17. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Maintain a backup contact list that you can reach by telephone or letter.
  18. Tempstar

    Tempstar Old and crochety Site Supporter+

    So while the site was unreachable I spent that much more time on HF. When I do run across a tidbit I print it, 3 hole punch it and put it in a notebook, one of ten on the shelf each devoted to a topic. I will always prefer paper copies of things to electromagnetic storage. I work in the IT world and know just how easy a bad RAID controller can eliminate years of archived data. I also never trust anything connected to the internet, that has been connected to the internet, or that was downloaded from the internet, after our company finding a trojan written by an employee that fired after 7 years and did substantial damage. Nothing caught it until it reached it's activation date.
  19. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    Thumb drives now that they have massive capacity, a external hard drive, and I archive a lot of stuff on my website server way more storage and bandwidth on it than I need now days.
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  20. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Hey B! I can assure you that we're good. There will be another outage at some point when either our host moves us to new hardware or we move to another host. Nothing nefarious has occurred here over the past couple of weeks although I've learned a lesson about Single Points of Failure (which I design to avoid in my work and personal life).

    There was a point a week or 2 ago that I looked into the importers for Elkarte. They exist and I could have helped move 100% of SM to SMs but we weren't fully up so the import would have been partial. I applaud the fact you acted so fast to get the core in a muster zone.

    I spend so very little time online these days that I can't promise I'll be around to watch over things but I'm taking steps to make sure that we have continuity in the future.
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