Opinion Question: If there was an Initial Deadly Terrorist Attack in Your City What Would You DoNext

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by ED GEiN, Apr 8, 2019.


  1. ED GEiN

    ED GEiN Monkey++

    Here's a hypothetical question inspired by a TV series I just saw. In the TV Series there was a deadly terrorist attack killing 100+ people by a bio weapon in one public building. If you lived in the City where the attack took place would you: 1. Leave your City and go out of state right away, 2. Stay in your area but go to what you believe is a more secure location or 3. Stay Home and try not to leave your home and have survival preparations in place? Obviously if you don't live in the City it's not applicable to you but feel free to give your opinion other than "Don't live in the City". This question assumes that you are free to not show up at work. You may also be landlocked trying to leave by amount of people also leaving the State. Added Revision Based on Initial Comments: Assume that no one has guaranteed that additional attacks won't be underway
     
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  2. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    You might post a poll with those choices plus "other" as options. You might also tell us what you would do and why.

    Or recite the snowflakes' lament -
    When in panic –
    when in doubt –
    Run in circles –
    Scream and shout.

    “It’s the white man’s fault –
    “without a doubt!!
    “I need a safe space –
    “please point one out.”
     
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  3. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Most bio agents are not exceedingly fast-acting, so chances are really good those 100 people spread a biological agent all over town, perhaps even around the world.

    To answer your poll...1) I avoid cities and other large gatherings
    2) Determine what the agent is and how is it transmitted
    3) Probably hole up, since the stupid people will be panicking

    Here's a quick little read to help you differentiate between hollywood and reality:

    • Fast-acting chemical agents. Individuals exposed to these agents begin displaying symptoms within seconds or minutes. Examples of such agents include the neurotoxic agent sarin, the choking agent chlorine, and the blood agent hydrogen cyanide.

    • Delayed-acting chemical agents and biological toxins. With agents in this category, which includes some chemicals as well as large-molecular-weight toxins produced by certain biological organisms, exposed individuals would not begin exhibiting symptoms for hours or days. Examples of such chemicals include sulfur mustard; biological toxins include ricin and botulinum toxin.

    • Slow-acting, noncontagious biological agents. These agents, which include viruses as well as the bacterial causative agents for anthrax and tularemia, produce no initial symptoms, but cause flu-like symptoms after a few days or weeks. Some, such as Bacillus anthracis, can be disseminated either in the form of spores or as vegetative cells.

    • Slow-acting, contagious biological agents. This category of agents, which includes the virus that causes smallpox and the bacterium that causes pneumonic plague, produces no initial symptoms upon infection but typically causes flu-like symptoms after a few days or weeks. Infected individuals are usually contagious after they are symptomatic.
     
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  4. apache235

    apache235 Monkey+++

    I/we would probably head out of town for a bit taking back roads to BOL. If the city went nuts* might just bug in.
    * the city is a liberal bastion so it's already nuts but in this case if the locals were doing the #2 poem
     
  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    First, the winds here are usually onshore, so anything that is airborne is pushed out into the coastal foothills and beyond. \i'd stay put until told to leave.
     
  6. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Though I live a few miles from town people venture to town all the time not knowing what is going on there . I mean, How would you know ?
    It is likely that if there is an biological event ,the military would put the town in isolation for the safety of the nation. To defy this protocol, you could be the carrier getting the disease out. Not that it would be in you but on you or your vehicle .
    Knowing the proximity of the attack and that it is to a specific area might be of some comfort on the other hand ,if it takes a while to discover, I believe that once home, stay home , unless you are contaminated , you don't want to spread the problem further contaminating your own house .
    Obviously if I hear about something serious like this I'd stay home , I have all the supplies I need for years . turn the radios on and communicate with people you trust .
     
  7. SB21

    SB21 Monkey+++

    You may be safer staying at home than traveling. Especially if you really don't know where you're going to go to . If you have a BOL , I'd go for it.
     
  8. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    If you are Bugging Out, you want to move Perpendicular, OR directly into the Prevailing Winds.... If you live on the West Coast then perpendicular... (North or South)
     
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  9. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    One thing we need to remember is that local officials will also be thinking on what they want to do to keep people safe. When you say bio-weapon, that could be something that could be spread. If that is the case then neighboring places may block you from traveling through their area. Sadly the best answer I can come up with is to shelter in place. Even if you live next door to the building that was attacked, going outside could be more dangerous then going outside. I do wonder if one could easily learn what the bio-agent was. If one had that truthful info then you could make decisions based on that.
     
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  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Being currently mobility-challenged, and both my properties are just outside town, and generally upwind of town, I would simply hunker down here in place. Got plenty preps to get me through a period of trouble.
     
  11. ED GEiN

    ED GEiN Monkey++

    Thanks for your opinions. It sounds like the best thing to do is Hunker down after the initial incident or look for a place locally to bug out where you have access to and hope that incident was the end not the beginning.
     
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  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    If it IS “The. End” nothing you do will be of any consequence... You just DIE...
     
  13. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Honesty is the issue .
    Do you know that Fukushima building 4 is in jeopardy and is leaning and is as much a threat as those that failed ?
     
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  14. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    But, I'll die happy....

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    No I did not. The news rarely reports on anything outside DC. Do you have a link? That is one danger the affected the world.
     
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  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    • The odds of being the victim of a shark attack are 1 in 11.5 million worldwide. Although there are 65 annual shark attacks each year, only a handful are fatal. Compared to this, a person is 3 times more likely to drown and 30 times more likely to be hit by lightning.
    • Compared to being killed by a dog, the likelihood of which is 1 in 18 million, a person is twice as likely to win the lottery and 5 times as likely to be struck by lightning.
    • One in 8 men and 1 in 24 women over the age of 40 will die from a sudden heart attack, while 1 in 4 men and 1 in 5 women will die from cancer.
    • Worldwide, 1 in about 2,050 people will die each year from unclean water, which carries numerous, life-threatening diseases. Each year, more people die from a lack of clean water than from wars.
    • The chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are about 1 in 20 million. A person is as likely to be killed by his or her own furniture, and more likely to die in a car accident, drown in a bathtub, or in a building fire than from a terrorist attack.
    • The chances a person will be killed by an asteroid are 1 in 200,000, which is much higher than the odds of being killed by hail, which is 1 in 734,400,000.
    • Each year, 1 out of 100,000 people die in a skydiving accident, which is 17 times lower than the risk of dying in a car accident.
    • 11 out of every 100,000 women in the United States will die after giving birth, which is ranked ahead of 40 other countries in maternal mortality. Obesity and the prevalence of C-sections have contributed to the increase in maternal mortality rates.
    • The odds of dying in a severe storm are 1 in 68,388. A person is more likely to die slipping in his or her bathtub, which occurs at a rate of 1 in 11,469.
    • A person’s chances of dying in an elevator are 1 in 10,440,000. Due to successful elevator brake systems, an elevator has plunged only once—in the Empire State Building in 1945.
    • The lifetime probability of dying in a car accident is 1 in 100, which is 200 times higher than the probability of dying in a plane crash.
    • While 1 out of 5 people fear the possibility of being murdered, the odds that a person will be murdered in any given year are about 1 in 18,690. According to the FBI, violent crime is now at a near-historic low.
    • According to the CDC, the infant mortality rate is about 6 for every 1,000 live births, which is more than 10 times higher than the mortality rate of the county with the highest vehicle mortality rate—San Bernardino, California—in the country.
    • The chance of being killed by a bear while visiting Yellowstone National Park is 1 in 2.1 million. As a park visitor, a person is more likely to die from drowning or burns sustained from falling into a thermal pool.
     
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  17. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    • Only if you don't stay on the Boardwalks....
     
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  18. GrayGhost

    GrayGhost Monkey++

    Easy....
    Get the F out of D BEFORE the S hits the F!
     
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  19. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    On the OP premise of terrorist attack the RED DAWN approach might be examined.
    Wouldn't be the first time the government betrayed it's people.
     
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  20. ED GEiN

    ED GEiN Monkey++

    "The chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are about 1 in 20 million. A person is as likely to be killed by his or her own furniture, and more likely to die in a car accident, drown in a bathtub, or in a building fire than from a terrorist attack."[QUOTE="Brokor, post: 582092, member: 139"

    Disagree and the reason is Context which many people including myself don't often consider when Posting on Survival Monkey. In this case the statistics are misleading as they include people in remote places that there is almost no likelihood that a terrorist attack will strike. On the other hand if you live in a Major Metropolitan area, New York City for example, the odds increase greatly.

    I always assume that a major terrorist attack in a City will likely involve many terrorists and weapons like BioWarfare that can do so much damage. Yes, I agree the chances are against a person getting caught in one single terrorist attack by a few terrorists, but if its a large scale attack, that's what I worry about especially if I live in that City.

    I do avoid more so because of nutcases than terrorists, going to Malls, Movie Theaters in the evenings, any places where there are large gatherings of people.
     
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