Plastic or stainless canteen?

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  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Since I never expect to have a ready supply of clean water in a SHTF then give me stainless every day.

    Even Mil plastic seams can split and the only time I'd like plastic is when OPSEC means that you have to have slosh proof canteen. To me that means a fully collapsible plastic canteen. NOISE, boy does a slosh in a solid canteen ,of any type, make a lot of noise.
     
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  2. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I use a hydration bladder when I hunt. Added a spun aluminum bottle in case I need to boil, and a full canteen makes no sloshing noises.
    I remember reading that half empty canteens got men killed in war.
     
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Hey Kell, Question..... Does the above mean, that one must drink the whole Canteen Dry, on the first Opening..... Or you don't Drink, unless you can refill, at the same time?
     
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    :lol:
     
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  5. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I would think it would depend upon the size of the canteen. With a water bladder and a canteen, there is no reason to ever be empty, unless you are using it to boil or collect for the bladder.
    He article I read made it a big deal that soldiers should never leave a base with a half empty canteen. (Made too much noise) article was about Vietnam, I believe.

    Several smaller canteens would make more sense.
     
  6. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Murphy gets men killed in war...... Or maybe a stupid lieutenant...... Never heard of sloshing water being the cause... But okay ;)
     
  7. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Plastic canteens with a SS cup....one on each hip has served me well. I love the hydration bladders integrated in my pack.....but I still like to have the cup & canteen combo.
     
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  8. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    Five years since I replied to this. Still using my plastic canteens, not a problem. I do use stainless steel canteen cups, as food doesn't stick as bad and no worries about the metal leaching into the food or hot drink.
     
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  9. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    It may be a matter of what is available at the time of need. There may not be a milsurp store available when SHTF. However, What you will find fairly readily are PET bottles.

    PET bottles come in a variety of capacities, can be squashed somewhat to conform to the volume of water stored to reduce sloshing noises. In an emergency, A PET bottle can be used to sterilise water either by solar exposure to UV light (slow) or by heating by fire (quick but a one shot solution). PET bottles, particularly wide mouth bottles can be used to store dried powder and granular ingredients to keep them water proof. Probably best not to try boiling water in a PET bottle with the lid...the lid is not the same kind of plastic as PET plastic and may have a different melting temperature.



     
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  10. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    we used to boil water in a paper cup...as long as the flame/heat source is lower than the water it will work... not sure what chemicals you will get from the heated plastic....
     
  11. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    @Witch Doctor 01 notice they didnt drink it. I think @chelloveck point and the point of the video's was... could you do it in an emergency? Its good info.
     
  12. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    @Ganado I was questioning whether or not the use of a plastic bottle to boil water could be worse than the contaminants in the water due to chemical leaching... I'm not a chemist I do know that some toxic chemicals are bound in the manufacturing process.. I just don't know if they would be released due to heating... if the info is flawed is it any good?

    I don't know YMMV...
     
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  13. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    It is a reasonable question to ask....it is not something I would do just to make a cup of coffee....however if the hazard to one's survival is greater of dying from cholera, dysentry, typhoid or some other biohazard than the toxic effect of chemicals leached from plastic, then the health risk of this process of sterilisation may be justified. Sterilisation can be achieved through exposure to UV rays of sunshine over an extended period of time. Also it is worth noting that the boiling water may be used for sterilising improvised surgical instruments.
     
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  14. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    If all I had was a single canteen, then I would go metal, otherwise I am fine with plastic and a metal cup.
     
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  15. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Both, one is none and two is one.

    I had both types in my GHB, filled with water, one of the kids decided to step on my bag to get out the other door, and they stepped just right, cracked the plastic canteen at the seem. a little heat and I sealed it, but now it's more of a backup to a backup. The metal canteen has been dented and scratched but never broken (yet).

    Since I also tend to keep at least a 1/2 case of bottled water at home/work (1L size from SAMs), I found some nice straps that hook on to my GHB and will hold a bottle of water. I've got 3 of them so I can add 3 L to my pack when/if I need it.
     
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  16. Hanzo

    Hanzo Monkey+++

    I like metal unless stealth is required, then collapsable. Source Kangaroo is pretty good. As is the 3L for a hydration pack. But I still like the canteen system.
     
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