First and foremost let me make it as clear as I can: I am NOT a predator, I am NOT a thief and I have zero tolerance for either. We who see what we feel is the writing on the wall should be doing everything in our power to become self sufficient as part of our plan to prepare for the worst. None of us are islands, however as evidenced by @BTPost and his lovely wife @alaskachick. When it came down to brass tacks, local support would have come in very handy (I am very glad the lights are still on and @BTPost is able to get the additional care he needs). Realistically we will need a MAG of some sort which could help us not have to cross the line I'm referencing below. My question is around the "tipping point". If there is a long term, truly catastrophic event and us crazy preppers are on our own for an extended time, when do we start the process of scavanging? More importantly, when does it become okay to take something that would have historically been considered stealing? Let me explain why this came to mind and again, I am no fan of theft, I'm really not. I was on a walk the other day and walked past a gas station. Mounted to one of the uprights, actually mounted to each upright holding up the roof, was a fire extinguisher. Now, I think we can all agree that today, right now, it's just flat theft and illegal and immoral to go take that fire extinguisher to add it to your preps. If there is a three day blackout or things are down for a week due to a snowstorm, same situation. It's theft. However, when the lights go off and it's going to be dark for a while, when does it transition from theft to scavanging? Sure, I understand that each situation is unique and we "can't know until we know", and please don't come back with depends. I didn't ask about adult underpants. If it depends, what does it depend on? If that fire extinguisher is still there six months into a situation (unrealistic I know but work with me) and the gas station isn't being protected as a bug in location, is it fair game? I think we could all rationalize, at some point post event, that we'd be putting it to better use and/or saving it for an actual fire emergency but when do we make that switch from "No, I'm not a thief. I'm not a predator. I'm not the guy/gal who prepped 1 million rounds of 5.56 and another half million of 7.62 so that I can murder and plunder," to "It's been left. Nobody else is using it and it's no longer being protected. It may very well go to waste if I don't take it now"?