So you believe that Drugs Usage is a Victimless Crime?

S'pose i could be wrong....i've only known 1 cowboy to lose his $&it but it was to coke/crack....near as bad but not quite.
Crystal is something they just CANT come back from...
There's nothing left.

 

Agreed....coke seems to be the DOC for high fliers and focussed crime fiends.

I get that the thread title is a hook...to invite readers to examine the issue; but it is also misleading in that the subject seems to assume a moral stance, with the moralising judgements that goes with it. It distracts from the actual issue, that cattle criminal supply chain activity is correlated with drug related crime. It would seem that diversification is becoming a criminal business strategy as much as it is for licit businesses.

The take home questions are...

How do cattle ranchers better protect their stock against theft?

and

How do law enforcement organisations better tackle the thieves, and help ranchers in implementing crime prevention, detection, investigation and prosecution strategies?

 

To Rustle you have to have a first hand knowledge of parts of the Ranching World.

Color this to mean that the Rustlers have near first hand knowledge of the place they are going to hit which usually means they have been on or near that place more than once.

Maybe they stole a truck or tractor or a 4 wheeler the first or 3rd time.

The thing is these folks do not usually know the complete path and handling of money and live stock. The paper trail is pretty strong and checks are the way you're paid. This makes a real poor path for rustlers to last long but they do a lot of damage till they are caught. Which means most are mentally impaired, crack, coke or meth will do them in, pot slows them down and they can be found at the local doughnut shop.

Most get caught, another reason the Cattlemen's Association can track their past crimes.

 

Supposedly 4 or 5 states may legalize in 2016 one is Cal so they may migrate to Cal for better weather and welfare..

 

You can only hope!

Down here they only inhabit the inner cities where there are trees and cooling centers.

The Rural Area is just hot for them in more than one way.
But not so hot that the Meth Labs get shut down, they only blow up on occasion, accident or drug war.

FWIW two counties away is/was a major meth producing area, so I am well aware of the facts of life in the meth wars.

 

The facts of life with meth are more life the facts of a slow death.

 

We have had exactly 1 homeless camp set up out the skirts of our back 40 woods...
The only reason it popped up is because the city put a road beside it that gave them access. We dealt with it. My younger brother and I + our 2 nasty dogs at the time made a show of ``cutting through the blackberry bushes`` to get to them...
They packed up and left. When they showed up at the back of our senior neighbors bush line we went back at her request to cut a path on her property...
Odd how rednecks with machettes and big dogs deter squatters aint it?

 

They were burning wires to get at the copper to sell for scrap...

 

They cut some fiber optic cable at ground level thinking is was copper, it was a real pain with frost in the ground to fix it.


Suspected copper wire thief electrocuted, killed

STOCKTON, Calif. -- A man was killed after being electrocuted following what police suspect was an attempt to steal copper wiring from an unfinished California subdivision, according to a report.

FOX40 in central California reports police are now trying to find the man's accomplice.

The accidental death happened Friday, and officers discovered a pair of wire cutters next to the man's body. Nearby residents told FOX40 there has long been a problem of copper wire theft in the area.

“I was in the house, heard a loud pop, and the lights kind of dimmed down,” neighbor Joseph Silva told the station.

Silva said he went outside to see what was going on a little while later when he saw fire trucks and responders performing CPR on the man's body.

Silva and other neighbors told FOX40 the subdivision was never finished and thieves have been taking wiring from location ever since.

Meanwhile police are searching for a suspected accomplice who was believed to be with the man at the time, according to FOX40.

 

I have seen this where it caused a MASSIVE net/phone/tv outage on Vancouvers North shore in the middle of the night....we had dig to fix it and the city wouldn't let us start till 8am because it involved heavy equipment....911 emergency - who cares....cant make any noise!

 

I purchased my place many years ago, surveyed it for a number of needs I had considered over the years.
One was ingress and egress, E&E as well as daily traffic.
I am happy with what I have, unless the State cuts a new Highway I am safe for the time being from major traffic and that means less access for the thieves of the world and the so called homeless which are just another class of thief, well unless your are a Lib.

 

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We discussed cattle theft in this area about a year ago. There is a drug route that runs up thru there. It is know to residents and officials. Cattle are big money, just go look at the price of steak. Something needs to happen to protect peoples livelihood.

 

I do not know any body that is NOT negatively affected by drugs or those close to them .
Every chemical one puts in their body has an effect on one's DNA that has an effect on one's offspring.
Emotional changes affect others as well as productivity and responsible behavior.
People become a Jeykle and hyde with drug abuse.
And no I never did drugs and have never been drunk ,it's not necessary.

 

Never did drugs either. Recently I think I figured out why...I'd have to 'earn' the drugs one way or another, and I'm LAAAAAAAAAZY!!!

 

I work woman inmates most are there for doing selling steeling to get money to buy drugs it sad most are in for pills I had one tell me that they would go out find a yard sale of older people buy something small talk to them then ask if they could use the bath room when they get in they go through the med cabinet or steel what they can sale while leavening.

 

Its funny I have been a cop for 33 years now, Once I actually arrested a heroin addict with a job. He was an iron worker and made enough to support his habit without stealing, That was once in 33 years so its a statistical anomaly.