Storing salt for SHTF

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by bnmb, Jul 28, 2010.


  1. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Maybe it would wise to store sea salt instead of ordinary, processed salt...Sea salt is full of iodine...just MHO
     
  2. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Depends on what you want to do with it.
    If cooking, I prefer table salt or Kosher Salt - better granulation and texture.
    For preservation, sea salt or clean pool/water conditioner salt.

    Salt is fairly cheap and plentiful - no reason not to store a goodly amount!

    And, welcome to The Tree!
     
  3. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    Thanks...my point actually was that sea salt has a lot more iodine than normal tabletop, of-the-shelf salt... I'm going to store only sea salt...if I need it in smaller granules, I'll grind it later...
     
  4. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    Iodine was put there for a reason. A SHTF scenario would be the type of situation (malnutrition) when you would want the iodine. Having a Goiter would suck while trying to conduct the physical labor involved. I do prefer sea salt's taste. We use regular iodine salt for cooking and sea salt for the table.
     
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    The amount of iodine in table salt is minimal, and is there for thyroid health; it is a necessary mineral not necessarily available in western diets. The reason for massive amounts of iodine in treatment of fallout is to force feed the thyroid with non-radioactive iodine rather than having it take up iodine 131 which is a radioactive isotope that results from fission reactions. Whether or not sea salt contains enough iodine to do a force feeding of the thyroid, I don't know. Betcha not, tho'.
     
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  6. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    I know one thing...in US they state that required quantity of iodine is 150 MICROgrams. The Japanese, who have the least amount of cancer of all developed countries take over 50 MILIgrams per day! And since sea salt has much more natural, sea iodine in it, I'm sticking with sea salt...
     
  7. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Moderator Moderator Founding Member

    bnmb, I've always heard, and read, the opposite, that sea salt contains only trace amounts of iodide/iodine. It may be a more "natural" version of it, but in less of a concentration.

    I found this on the net, take it for what it's worth, a grain of salt if you will.

    ACS Publications - Cookie absent
    It is a myth (often also false advertising) that “natural” sea salt contains significant amounts of iodine. The iodide content of seawater is only 64 µg/kg or 2.1 mg I/kg NaCl. In evaporatively prepared salt, the iodide/chloride ratio is even lower because of iodine loss; crystallization processes leave iodide selectively in the mother liquor.
     
  8. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    I would disagree...They just generalize. Look at the world. Ever heard or read anywhere that Thai people or any other mainly fishing communities ever developed Struma (it's Latin...I don't know the English term)? There is different types of sea salt...unrefined and refined...I'm talking here about unrefined sea salt. We were using normal table salt like everyone else...and my mother developed Struma...Aparently, the table salt was not iodized enough. She switched to sea salt and now she's fine. I don't know how our ancestors survived without "iodized" salt, but I'll take natural stuff over "manufactured-refined-filled with additives-iodized" salt any day.
    Human kind survived for at least 500.000 years without iodized, artificial salt...so can I...and i even like the taste better of sea salt...it's not so salty... :)
     
  9. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Moderator Moderator Founding Member

    I also use sea salt, I prefer the taste like you. I also use the "unrefined" sea salt, and everything I had found in the past indicated the concentration of iodine was lower than "iodized" salt. I keep iodized salt on hand to use in baking & cooking where the coarser sea salt does not work as well.

    Our ancestors survived without iodized salt because their diet was different than ours is today. There were also many more cases of goiter than there are now.
     
  10. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    The thing is that table salt is not the only source of iodine...I really don't know anything about your fruit and vegetables, milk and yogurt, cheese, eggs and meat, how are they produced, cultivated or manufactured, but I can give you description of our food products.....
    We don't buy our veggies and fruits in super-mega-giga markets...oh, they tried to sell us that crap, but they gave up in a month...no-one would touch them! We buy our stuff on Green markets, open markets where producers display their stuff in the open and the competition is stiff...When I pick up a tomato, firs thing I do is to smell it. If it has the strong tomato smell, I buy kilogram or two...If I see tomatoes lined up like soldiers, all same size, shape and color, I don't even look at them...I hand-pick all my veggies and fruits. I can recognize and sniff out all our home-made stuff, as well as "organic" imports. Watermelons- I tap them with my finger and pick the one that has the deepest echo, deepest sound. Then I pick it up and squeeze it with both hands, while keeping my ear on the watermellon. If I hear crackling or squishing sounds inside, I buy it. Our watermelons are so sweet and full of sugar that you can barely stand it. The second we cut it open, swarms of wasps, bees and flies attack the melon... so we usually cut it inside. Did you ever try wild forest strawberries? NOTHING in the world tastes like that!...the only problem is that they are small and well hidden in the woods, so it takes long time to collect a decent amount.
    Cheese and eggs-we also buy it from individual producers, as we do with the honey. The farmers here do not use pesticides, hormones and antibiotics. The smaller the producer, the healthier the food. One of the best dairy products for me is goat milk. I just love it raw. Lots of times I make yogurt at home...nothing beats home-made stuff. All above mentioned food has lots of iodine in it.

    Sorry for the rant, but I just thought I could clarify the iodine question
     
  11. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Do not know exactly how much we have stored but will continue to all more. The old saying: "worth his weight in salt" comes from the times when salt was nearly THE medium of exchange. When there is none it becomes very valuable. Makes one fine barter item. My wife likes sea salt, I prefer Iodized.
     
  12. BRONZ

    BRONZ Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    is there a place to buy bulk sea salt.
     
  13. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    +1

    It's been proven statistically that iodized salt has reduced thyroid disease where fish is not a dietary mainstay. It does have a negative effect on those with thyroid tumors, but that is a much rarer disease than hypothyroidism or goiter.
     
  14. ISplatU

    ISplatU Monkey+

    I think I am going to get some salt.


    My 9 year old daughter was just playing Oregone Trail today and was telling me how much fish she caught. I asked how are you going to save all that. I thought she would say we smoked it, but she said she did not know. So she went back in the computer room, and then came out and told me she put it in salt.

    Yes we are going to need alot, and I have very little. Thanks for the thread.
     
  15. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    In that case, you'll need this curing salt:
    Morton®Salt - Meat Curing

    I've been meaning to get started on that as well.

    A bit more about it:
    Morton®Salt - Meat Curing Methods
     
  16. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I like the flavor and lack of chemicals or processing that Redmonds Realsalt has. However, it (like most natural or sea salts) only contains traces of iodine. Pre SHTF I think I get enough in the other crap I eat but post SHTF it might be necessary to break into the 5 gallon buckets of iodized salt.
     
  17. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    I don't think so...lots of iodine in natural food. I really don't need all the other chemicals they put in the table salt....I know that none of my ancestors suffered from Struma, and they always used Aegean sea salt...
     
  18. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Moderator Moderator Founding Member

    There's iodine in 'natural' food ONLY if there is iodine in the ground where it was grown. That's one of the problems the U.S., not a lot of natural iodine in the ground. The plants can't "make" iodine, but they can pull it from the ground if it exists.
     
  19. bnmb

    bnmb On Hiatus Banned

    OK...I didn't know that about US soil...You're right...
    Any knowledge or indication what were Indian tribes eating, or if they suffered from lack of iodine? Any historical records?
    It would be really interesting to find out that, if possible....
     
  20. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Moderator Moderator Founding Member

    Found this interesting:
    From this source:
    https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xm...bution_of_goiter_among_indians.pdf?sequence=1

    It's interesting, never really thought about it, how the Native Indians would literally use EVERYTHING from an animal kill.
     
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