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Stupid antivacciners making headlines again

Discussion in 'Survival of the Fittest' started by oil pan 4, Feb 4, 2019.


  1. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Measles out break sickens 48, 41 of them never vaccinated.
    Parents are running to the doctors to immunize their children.
    Then just like that, it's not cool any more.
    Washington measles outbreak soars to 48 cases - CNN
     
  2. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    To vaccinate or not to vaccinate, that is The Question. It's a choice of risks.

    On the one hand, you have the risk of disease--which is usually treatable, but sometimes fatal.

    On the other hand you have the risk of death, paralysis, autism, sterility, and a host of other adverse reactions from the poisonous materials that are routinely mixed into vaccines. On purpose.

    And, oh yes--sometimes the vaccines also give you the disease they were supposed to prevent.

    Everybody has a side of the fence to be on. The ones on the right side of the fence are the ones who do their own research.

    Start with Gardisil. Ask any mother who has had a daughter die from it. Or just been sterilized for life.
     
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  3. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Think of it as modern natural selection.
    The control group dies in huge numbers.
    The experimental group suffers isolated cases of side effects.

    Just think how well off you will be when you catch preventable illnesses with no modern medicine.
     
  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Daughter and I were discussing that this am,Here they school won't let the kid go to school unless they are vaccinated.

    How we lived through all this is beyond me!
     
  5. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    In the olden days parents sent their kids to the nearest home that had measles or mumps ,to get it over with in their youth .
    Growing up dad noted that people that were prone to over do the cleanliness were sicker than normal play in the dirt kids .
    The human body needs to have something to fight to develop antibodies ,if it does not it is susceptible to to all forms of disease .
    One thing old timers knew is that if something is weak and likely to die ,let it die
    Propagating the life of a creature that is prone to disease only makes things worse in the long run.
    While it may not seem humane , is it humane to inflict the innocent with disease ? Diabetic do it all the time, knowing the are diabetic and yet still reproducing young that will be diabetic as well. Diabetes is not the only issue, but it is relevant .
    You would think that as a society at this day and age in time would be more intelligent, but the liberal have no such discipline .
    People neglect to keep track of their family history and what weakness exist being handed down , is this not shameful .
    People marry not knowing any thing about the other persons background, in fact with less information than what a person is required on a job application.
    As a modern society we have certainly accelerated well past stupid.
    I do not agree with Agenda 21 seeing the demise of humanity but there certainly should be education toward a more intelligent look at the health of the species, as though modern medicine and big Pharma are not an option .
     
  6. snake6264

    snake6264 Combat flip flop douchebag

    They should be hung in the town square.
     
  7. Grandpa Patch

    Grandpa Patch Monkey+

    Don't forget....
    1) We played outside after school, all day until the sun went down and sometimes even longer.
    2) We only went inside for good reason (toilet). We were taught "not to run in and out the door".
    3) We drank from the garden hose. We didn't have refrigerated water bottles of purified water to take outside.
    4) If we didn't need to go to the hospital, then we were told to 'brush it off' and go back playing. Unless we wanted to stay inside the rest of the day (usually used as a threat to quit whining and go play).
    5) We rode our bicycles until the tires fell off. Then we actually had to put the chain back on, fix a punctured inner tube (oh, the horror and "what is an inner tube") or get into the tool box for a wrench to tighten the 'goose neck' so that our handle bars stayed pointed the right direction.
    6) We didn't have cell phones or other electronics for our parents to track us. We KNEW our boundaries and didn't need a cell phone to be called and told to come home. Mom just yelled out the front door and we had better be there quickly.
    7) Phones were mounted on the wall. You made your phone call from remembering the phone number or having it written down in your (get this...PAPER) address book. Everyone in the house, or at least that room, could listen to your side of the phone call.
    8) Our neighbors knew who we were and where most likely on a first name basis with our parents. There wasn't a chance of getting away with anything.

    All the things we did that are frowned up today as someone might be 'left unattended', hurt or unsupervised behaviors might lead to trouble. We didn't worry about silly things that today are such monumental tasks.

    Dating was a system of learning about the other likes, dislikes, family, friends and your overall compatibility with each other. Today they use a DNA test and a dating app on their phones. They marry in short time and have no knowledge beyond the immediate and necessary information.

    Everything today is "now", "I want/need/require it now". Kids and text messaging believe that it is an immediate response system of communication and that they have to stop what they are doing in order to answer the text message. The horror of making someone wait for an answer to a text message. If it is that important, that I know that information and you need to confirm I know it, then you probably have my phone number and can call and actually speak with me.
     
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  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

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  9. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Vaccines are so good because there free!
     
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  10. Idahoser

    Idahoser Monkey+++ Founding Member

    if scientists want to be taken seriously, they should publicly distance themselves from political activists claiming to be 'scientists' to get their agenda enacted.
     
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  11. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Now it's spread to Houston Texas.

    If I had my own sovereign nation I would make marriage hard, lawyers, councilors and accounts would need to be involved and you would have to prove you have lived together for at least 6 months . Kind of like the opposite of divorce. Then make divorce easy.
    Gays, polygamy, midgets, different, race couples, whatever.
    Over 16, no incest, mild eugenics, ect.
    Anyone who has more kids than they can support are steriled, any one who wants an abortion gets it for free, but wait theirs more, every abortion of a healthy baby comes with a free mandatory tube tie, reverse at your own expense no earlier than 5 years.
     
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  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Illegal immigration. There's your fracking answer. We're seeing a resurgence of diseases which have already been wiped out because of the third world country at our border.

    Being anti-vaccine isn't "stupid", not with the "government" we have and the big pharma/agra/medical cartels profiting from keeping you sick.
     
  13. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Being anti vacciner with a disease ridden country to the south is the definition of stupid.

    Riddle me this.
    If big pharma and the government conspire to keep us sick. Why is the 3rd world shit hole to our south which has almost no big pharma or deep state full of all these sick people...
    Furthermore why are all these sick people coming into the US with diseases you don't see here if vaccines are a conspiracy?

    If this is antivacciner logic, then wow you just explained everything to me.
     
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  14. I am (barely) old enough to remember public swimming pool closings. I clearly remember persons in "iron lungs". I attended high school with a girl who wore a leg brace. Thanks to Dr.'s Salk and Sabin people don't need to fear the every summer epidemic of polio. I think vaccines should be required unless you can prove a medical or possibly religious exemption. By the way, pediatrician tried to vaccinate me for smallpox three times, never took.
     
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    You're taking something real and imagining the impossible. Most people who often argue with facts also like to take an extreme example and pretend that's also the proof they need to continue to believe their fragile reality is safe. I'm not here to help you to continue to live in denial, only point out the inaccuracies, the tremors in the matrix, and allow you to draw your own conclusions. They are not trying to KILL everybody, the corporations know they can maximize profits by keeping you sick. There are only a few, really disgusting globalist types who actually push for population control, and occasionally some of their plans are implemented. Life isn't as simple as framing an argument. There are many gray areas.
    I've posted about Rockefeller medicine before, psychotropic drugging, and I've also posted about cancer and the massive profits the corporations make from treatments rather than curing the disease. There's nowhere near the same money to be made in the cure business.

    And another juicy bit of reality, people can openly admit it's a "poor business model" to cure diseases:

    (check the irony in the fact that this was a scientist from Mexico who discovered a possible cure)

    You will not see the truth on television.
    You will not find comfort in the truth if you do find it.
    Your entire reality is a rotten, putrid lie, so just get over it.

    And I haven't even gotten into the transhumanism agenda yet.
     
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  16. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    While measles, mumps, etc. DO have occasional long term effects, it is not usual or normal. Yep, we had some deliberate exposures to all sorts of things (including stealing kisses from the girls in class) for which there are now vaccines. It used to be that you weren't considered grown up until you had eaten a pound of the local dirt and acquired the resistance that gaming and texting kids are NOT exposed to. More's the pity that we've overshot the mark when it comes to building resistance to germs.

    I also remember the iron lungs. I cannot wish that existence on anyone, that is one vaccine I can accept as useful.

    What we need now is a seriously heavy duty vaccine against cell phone addiction.
     
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  17. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    Where does it say in the original linked article that they were anti-vaccinators? I saw no stats on the children that were ill. But one of the links that the article provided gave a list of places that were exposed:

    Other locations:
    • Trader Joe's, 305 SE Chkalov Drive, Vancouver from 12:30 to 3:40 pm Monday, Jan. 21.
    • Dollar Tree, 305 SE Chkalov Drive, Vancouver from 1:10 to 4 pm Monday, Jan. 21.
    • Walmart Supercenter, 14505 NE Fourth Plain Blvd., Vancouver 1:30 to 5 pm Monday, Jan. 21.
    • Vancouver Women, Infant and Children (WIC) office, 5411 E. Mill Plain Blvd., Vancouver from 2:50 to 6:15 pm Wednesday, Jan. 23.
    • Tower Mall public areas (entrances, hallways), 5411 E. Mill Plain Blvd., Vancouver from 2:50 to 6:15 pm Wednesday, Jan. 23.
    IMO from reading the list, looks to me like the children were poor families. Suburban anti-vac Moms usually do not go to dollar tree and the WIC office. That list above reads like poor or immigrant children that were not vaccinated. Yes, two did travel to Hawaii but the rest could be the poor without insurance.
     
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  18. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    What some one allows in their body is their individual choice. As well as whom they associate with .
    people living away from society ,as they certainly will post SHTF, the idea of vaccinations may be a thing of the past .
    As well as preserving the distance from others in the future .
    Inuit tribes in remote areas of Alaska were doing fine til explorers brought disease with them . in those days no one knew any better, that' is not the case now and education in this field should be serious.
    Not having the facilities to make drugs and antivirus is reason enough not to mix with society post SHTF.
    Something to keep in mind, in a post apocalyptic environment is the mothers milk is the best source of immunities if she has any.
     
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  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    I'm not imagining shit.
    The antivacciners have created some kind of mutually exclusive fantasy pipe dream world where vaccines are some how capable of both working and not working at the same time.

    Where by your own admission we don't have these diseases but then they get brought in by sick people illegally entering our country and get all the antivacciners sick.
    Yeah and that's supposed to proof vaccines don't work?
    That's literally the stupidest concept I have ever heard of.

    The only vaccine I really don't care for is the flu shot. It always makes me sick and some times I still get the flu. This year's flu shot was less than effective, I know people who still got the flu that had the flu shot. But they did get over the worst of it in 3 or 4 days. The first time I got the flu I was sick as a dog for about a good 8 days.
    Hate on the flu shot all you want.

    All I know is I have been to a lot of shit hole countries and never caught anything I was vaccinated for.
     
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  20. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    They updated the article after I posted this, when I posted it the total was 48, it. Updated to 49 and the part about 41 of 48 the children never being vaccinated vanished.
    The list of exposure locations wasn't on there originally.
     
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