I have read and even talked to some that are 'offering their services' as they are, to others, as a separate and sole entity to provide security to groups, families, etc.... Here is what I recently found "posted" on S/B's "finding others" listing: West Central Alberta Canada SHTF security collective for hire. Prepper <!-- /.postdata --> <!-- /.title -->Feb 252010 <!-- /.title-container -->Now this is completely different. A collective of friends and family with a well armed/trained and prepped SHTF security force that is more than equal to that of a platoon, looking for a well financed individual who’s in need of a security collective for in the event of a SHTF senario, as in TEOTWAWKI. Here’s the offer: -You buy a BOL in the form of a large mostly tree’d property in the west central Alberta area. -You develop the property into a legal gun range that’s for combat shooters and such related training needs. -You develop the property and stock it for SHTF related needs stockpiling the required supplies for you and your immediate family. -You ensure that there’s a sound, safe, well maintianed and completely “self sufficient” large home on the property. -You hire a member from our collective as the onsite property management, and allow that person and their family to live in the onsight home for free as payment. -You allow any other member of the collective the option to move onsite for a low rent agreement, and help with any land prepping required i.e. for moving in a mobile home or manufactured home. -You will the entire property to whomever you like and the property management in a combined ownership in the event of your passing. -You are not required to train with us nor have any firearms of any kind. However you are welcome to join us if desired. -You are not part of any leadership structure within our collective unless you earn it based on an agreement from members of the collective. -A SHTF senario would mean either a war on Canadian soil (most unlikely), or a social breakdown where an everyman for himself way of life comes into existance. -In a SHTF senario, you and your immediate family would go to the BOL. You nor any of your immediate family would be responsible for any security taskings, as by helping out our collective, you’ll of earned you and your immediate families right to the safety provided by our collective. -Your immediate family is you, your wife, your children, your childrens children, and your grandchildrens children. You must be of good morale character and stay within the confines of the local laws. We’ll talk more details in person. If interested, please leave your contact info here and I will email you privately using the email heading “Completelydiff.” Thank you. Here is the one response left thus far....! There is one small problem with the”services” which you are offering. You see, I have spoken to a number of people, some are groups of only a handful, some are quite large, and there is a general consensus….. Most people are afraid to take in anyone as a “separate security force” or a “detachment” of so-called “security professionals”, to speak of. They are afraid that this ‘force” will ultimately become one that takes over their land, their people, and some even fear that they may become endentured servants or “slaves” if you will, to these people. I personally kow of some very special S/F personnel that are trying to “offer” the same services as you have here. There are no takers….There will not be any either! When I mentioned this to my group, they were quite upset about the entire idea, saying NO way! The security people will have to do the same work as anyone else, and be required to work, if they want to eat. Now, I discussed this idea with the S/F people and they insist that their “job” of providing 24/7/365 security is above and beyond any other consideration….They insisted I give the TOTAL CONTROL over my land and my people to them, in order to “maintain” as safe a place for all. Personally, I do not intend to become a slave to anyone, and, and there is NO way on earth I am ever going to place their name/s on a piece of legal document allowing them ANY ownership, especially in the case of my demise! Accidents seem to happen you know? I am NOT inviting my own murder or “accidental death” . Do not tell me it cannot happen, I am ex-Law enforcement, both military and civilian. I spent a lot of years in Private Investigations as well. My advice: Back up and re-think your offer and position. Re-word your ad and make it an offer, the way you have it written here, it sounds far too ominous! You’ll only scare off Any perspective clientele! Most groups have at least 1 or more members that are ex-military, and some have active members as well. 99.99% are extremely well armed. Most have pre-positioned themselves into areas which they can defend with little to NO outside help whatsoever. In a SHTF scenario, your services would probably be more in demand, at some point in time. Right now, I cannot say there is anyone out there that will even consider your services or offer. In this particular instance, your advertisement, is offering a “division” of sorts, and people are NOT inclined to accept that division, as it causes them far too many problems in the future. Best of luck! I found this to be interesting....BUT, as stated VERY "DANGEROUS"! Seriously, I cannot think of anyone gullible or stupid enough to even consider this "offer'. Who would so much as put on a legal document a "will" to place the "collective" as this guy advertises, as a manager or anything of the sort, in almost nearly any scenario? Not many! I can see an obvious attempt right there, to be in KONTROL of a group, or at least the land where they live.... I found the ad to be just a bit "out there"! But, then again, maybe I'm too paranoid? Trust someone with that type of power, uhhhh.....NO, not me! ( I like the part of: YOU; you buy, you provide, you do this, you do that, you hire us...) See anything here that ruffles YOUR feathers?