Ok we have been doing some discussion on how we would establish a new civilization in a post TEOTWAWKI era and one thing I happened to notice was never discussed and was curious on others thoughts regarding it. We most all agree that there would be no welfare as it exists now but what about those incapable of contributeing? Im not talking about those who are to lazy to carry thier weight, I think we all would agree they could go elsewhere or starve, Im thinking of say a member of the group who has an accident or is injured in defence of the group and for instance gets a broken back and is paralized and to add to the senario we will say they are single. I know the odds of a person surviveing these kind of injuries in a post SHTF situation are slim but we could also look at say a few years down the road and some members are getting old and are no longer capable of the labor and tasks required to provide for them selves or on a more short term thing say a person who badly breaks a leg or bothand will not be able to do for them selves for a couple of months. How do the rest of you figure it should be delt with when people are for some reason truely incapable of doing for themselves due to physical limitations? Dose the group pool resources in a kind of tax form that everyone gives so much to be passed to those who cant get by or is it a volantery thing and what if that person in need was less popular, do we leave it to whoever is willing to take them in or is it like the eskamos that when you were no longer useful you took a seat on the ice and waited to feed the bears so they could get fatter and feed those still useful? Im just curious as to others thoughts on this. Would there be a form of social security disability or are you all on your own if you are hurt and if there was then how would it be set up?