Trading Post-TEOTWAWKI

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Tyler Danann, Dec 31, 2013.


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  1. Nearly all your gold and silver

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  2. Three quarters of your gold and silver.

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  3. Half of your gold and silver.

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  4. A quarter of a your gold and silver

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  5. Slaves and machine parts

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  6. A hail of lead!

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  7. A mixture of precious metals, slaves and machine-parts.

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  1. Tyler Danann

    Tyler Danann Monkey

    Just wondering what 15,000 gallons of petroleum would be worth in gold and precious metals if you were a Mr Big of the post apocalyptic world?

    What would you trade for the fuel?

    It is being delivered by tanker convoy soon and you have about 5,000 tonnes of gold and silver to barter with. Ancillary trade goods are bullets, slaves and machine-parts.

    You have scant reserves of fuel and it is precious. You don't lack for food, but are not trading a surplus either....

    The noise of the convoy approaches and your go-between broker is waiting for an answer. As merchant king you aren't going to turn down the deal of a lifetime, but you don't want to give away too much gold. Or do you?

    The options
    Nearly all your gold and silver - Very likely to get the fuel, plus a lasting shipment for several years. A very good chance of a permanent trade-treaty.

    Three quarters of your gold and silver - Likely to get the job done, chance of a future trade-treaty also.

    Half of your gold and silver - Possible to get one of the 7,000 gallon tankers worth of fuel, but not both.

    A quarter of your gold and silver - Unlikely to get much, it could well anger the convoy leader!

    Slaves and machine parts - Dubious trade for an unlikely agreement. Perhaps it'll soften up the men wanting wives for back home? It could also arose their anger at such offerings. You rub your hands and think more on this...

    A hail of lead! - This is risky, the convoy is well guarded with both troops AND tracked vehicles

    A mixture of precious metals, slaves and machine-parts - A balanced gesture, likely to get negotiations going, at the expense of a decisive outcome.
     
  2. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    My issue would be how to get it here.... What Type and Grade of Fuel...... and if I had room in the Tank Farm to store it.....
     
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  3. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    None of the above.
     
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Ditto
     
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  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    TEOTWAWKI is for Wookies
    I do not waste perfectly good fantasies on such useless garbage, the world that I grew up in ended years ago and what has replaced it is atrocious.
     
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  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I'm the one that you will have to deal with Tyler D.

    If you don't know the correct pass word, You leave empty handed.
     
  7. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    or trade him some Boudin
     
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  8. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I have plenty of that !
     
  9. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I've got 2 cases of water.
     
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  10. JABECmfg

    JABECmfg multi-useless Site Supporter

    Pfft, water? C'mon man, beer is much more valuable than water... ;)

    @Tyler Danann - Dude... If I may ask, how exactly did you come up with this question in the first place? Are you asking for advice with a video game or something?
     
  11. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I'll stick with water. And the Great Lakes.
    Current wars are over oil.
    The last one will be over water.
     
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  12. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I hit water at 4' this weekend digging a hole for a power post.
     
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  13. Tyler Danann

    Tyler Danann Monkey

    Grades of fuel for most petroleum vehicles in 89, 91 and 95 octane plus some diesel.
     
  14. Tyler Danann

    Tyler Danann Monkey

    ????

    I'm not there dude, sorry to bust the groove on that one.

    The password is: I'm on a roll and those babies have gotta be traded! :)
     
  15. Tyler Danann

    Tyler Danann Monkey

    I'm curious as to what folks would trade for fuel when they have a bunch of silver and gold worth trading.

    You have water, you have food already, just not enough as a surplus.
     
  16. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    "Dude", you might not know it yet, but BTPost knows more about fuels than most folks. He runs a tank farm.
     
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  17. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    I wont be out on the open road. Propane is the only fuel I'm interested in. I would trade some 4 ounces of silver for a 100 pound cylinder of Propane. An ounce for a grill size tank.
     
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  18. ditch witch

    ditch witch resident bacon hoarder Site Supporter+

    I have some smallpox laced blankets and gallon of rotgut likker to trade.

    Why give up my goods when I can just make you blind and sick and take it all? BWHAHAHAHA!
     
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  19. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus


    A strategy with proven results! [booze]
     
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  20. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Actually, in Alaska there are only two (2) Grades of Gasoline at the Distributer Level. (80/87 and 100/110) and two (2) Grades of Diesel. (#2 Diesel and JetA50) This is due to the large amount of Aircraft in the State, and a very small Population density. Distributers can only source these four Grades, and they have a lot of different customers to service. Also of NOTE, there is NO Ethanolized Gasoline, ANYWHERE in the Alaska Fuel Distribution System, due to the fact that Distributers must supply Aviation Grade Fuels, from the same tanks, as other Gasoline customers, and the FAA Mandates that there can be NO Ethanol in Aviation Gasoline, Period. Most Additives and Mandated Filtering (Aviation fuels, by FAA REGs) are added to the delivered Fuels, as they are loaded in the Delivery Vehicles, at the Distributers Plant.
    This minimizes the number of separate Storage Tanks, needed at the Distributers Facility, and Refinery to Distributer Transporting hassles.
    ......
     
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