Two of Michigan Cities are in the top!!

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by VisuTrac, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

  2. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    What was the hurricane that hit up there.?
    Barackie i think ?
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  3. Illini Warrior

    Illini Warrior Illini Warrior

    after seeing what New Orleans considered habitable, even before Katrina, I question the report that 8k properties have been reclaimed ...... that entire 5th Quarter, down by the river, should have been sealed off from re-building ..... a flood zone is a flood zone
  4. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    Yay for Michigan !! This is why I moved to, and stay in the woods of good ole' "Up North"
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  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Yeah, My BOL is going to be somewhere in flint.
    Who would ever suspect that a burnt out shell could be a safehouse?
    No one would even give it a second though. 'Nope nothing in there to see'

    Copper, aluminum and iron/steel have already been stripped out of it in the past 20 years of societal decay.
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  6. Ajax

    Ajax Monkey++

    I don't get why the cities don't just bulldoze and clean up the houses and buildings that are unsaveable and if they don't have money to do it offer them for free to developers or anyone willing to clean it up, at least they get property tax.

    I think it might of been hurricane liberalrina with some heavy scoialatti storms thrown in.
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  7. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Monkey++

    Detroit has been selling some properties for $100 or so, the problem is typically liberal, the permit processes and taxes make them too much trouble even for next to nothing.
  8. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    TC you got that right.

    They'll basically give you the property, you have to fix it up, YOU have to live in it for X years and they rape you for taxes for you improvements to the property. Plus you have to pay city income tax on the income you earn.

    So .. Not such a good deal.

    There are a ton (1000's and 1000's) of homes in Detroit, Benton Harbor, Flint, Saginaw that you can buy for less than 10k outright. But your odds of dying in the house/neighborhood exceed those of a 4 pack a day smoker, a fifth of Jack drinking pot head by a good margin.

    I fixed up a few houses for my uncle when he was alive in Detroit so he could resell/rent. Yep, I was wearing a pistol and had a shotgun slinged while gutting and rebuilding the house over night. Un-nerving would be the word for it as most nights there would be shooting within a couple of blocks. No sirens, just shots.

    I worked in the house from dusk till dawn. I knew that no one would be coming to the house during the overnight so, if i were to have a problem, it wouldn't be a relative that i'd be drawing down on. Glad when he gave up the landlord businesses.
  9. Ajax

    Ajax Monkey++

    I couldn't imagine being a landlord in Detroit or some other ghetto type area.
  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    People have to live somewhere. He usually had good tenants as they were background checked or friends of good tenants. In most cases the people that rented eventually bought the house.

    500.00 for house, 8-10k to fix up/clean. Rent for a couple of years, couple built up credit history and then bought the house for around 20-25k. It seemed to be good for everyone.
  11. enough

    enough Monkey++

    Hiya gang,

    I live in MI too. About 15 miles from the worst of it. I'm curious how far you think you need to be away when the hordes vacate the city and start branching out post-shtf? I have my plan, just wondering what others think about a city like flint.
  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    1000 miles is to close for "Me"..... YMMV.....
  13. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Flint? erm, head out I-69, then take 12 up to Bad Axe then keep going up to the thumb coast.
    Yes there is lots of marshes, mosquitoes but that should keep the roving hoard at bay.

    Or buy one of those burned out shells in flint, dig out the basement, install a hardened bunker, leave the shell up and use it if the SHTF.

    The hoards will migrate out of the cities once the resources are gone. Pray that if it ever happens, It's the dead of winter. You'll stand a better chance.

    Flint, Detroit, Saginaw, Lansing, Benton Harbor, Grand Rapids and possibly Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti as long as there is power, water, and food there. The residents will be staying put. And things will be ok, even in a martial law situation.

    But those areas are high density of people that may be currently relying on Uncle Sam to survive. I'm sure that some of them are genuinely nice people. But if they turn into a roving band. They are going to get piled high and deep.
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