Using Tiny House Principles for Fallout Shelter Design

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  1. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Run duck and cover....when the 'shrooms are growing in the sky....
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    As nuclear fallout protection seems to be an emerging topic of interest, I have posted a link How to Design a Nuclear Fallout Shelter to a site that looks at fallout shelter design using a'tiny house' model for inspiration.

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    The website is well illustrated, and provides simple, informative information, about fallout shelter design and planning; together with a select list of resources links for further research.

    For those who are more of a DIY guy, limited to basic equipment, skills and raw materials....
    App. D: Expedient Blast Shelters - Nuclear War Survival Skills
     
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  2. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Is it on a trailer frame ? I'm amazed how many of those 'tiny houses' on TV are on trailer frames, yet go to a piece of property with no intent to ever move again. Watched one this morning, gal paid $110,000 for a 200sqft one to be permanently place on her Texas property....how stupid is that ? $100-200/sqft would have built a real nice place there for 1/5 the money, OR a 'real' house if she wanted to blow 110k.
     
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  3. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    I've been looking at tiny houses to get ideas for my BOL after my move next year, though the BOL is really just a place to regroup, heal up, rearm and go get my place back from the sunzabiches.
     
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    One of mine in the sticks.

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  5. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The main differences between tiny houses according to people who have lived in tiny homes, campers trailets and normal homes is the tiny homes is tiny homes have durable highly customized finishes, customized to be compact some with their own custom furniture, pretty much always have a loft and durable fixtures.
    Where a trailer home just uses standard off the shelf everything and doesn't have a loft.
    Compared to a camper where a few years of living in one will start to destroy it. Tiny homes tend to have strong durable floors, doors and roofs.
    Also tiny houses have large 32 inch or bigger doors so you can actually move real appliances and mattress in and out.
     
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  6. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    The linked article in post #1 gives an artist's impression of a fallout shelter designed with tiny home principles in mind. I guess a tiny home on a trailer frame could be used as a fallout shelter, provided that the trailer home was surrounded by the necessary ionising radiation abating mass.
     
  7. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Interesting concept, but for me incompatible with my claustrophobic tendencies... especially underground!! :eek:
     
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  8. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    One thing I found interesting for those who want Underground Shelters, IS: Where do you get your Fresh Air from, and how do you disguise the Intake, so the Zombies, Predators and or, Bad Guys, don't find it and flood you with Water, Gasoline, or block it up so you have to come out?
     
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  9. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Easy - hollow tree trunk - from a 60's documentary on a German POW camp
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  10. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    To close to the Ground... anyone walking by is going to hear, or smell, that type of setup.... Now if it were 30Ft up in the Air, you bet, that would be very nice....
     
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  11. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    I dunno - It fooled the NAZI's for seven years including the Colonel who ran the camp, a General, and a Gestapo Major...
     
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  12. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Would it fool you, if you had an idea that there was an underground Bunker near by?
     
  13. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    No, but we aren't on Hogan's Heroes either. Yes, you are right about the height.
     
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  14. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    The Vietcong managed to conceal whole logistic installations underground, artfully concealing entrances, ventilation intakes and exhausts, accommodation, storage, workshops, hospitals and even theatres....all underground.


    http://www.wood.army.mil/usaes/library/documents/CuChiTunnels.pdf

    http://perino.pbworks.com/f/TUNNEL RATS.pdf

    Bunkers, Secret Passageways, & Underground Shelters

    Urban camouflage??

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    Backyard Bunker Designs | Backyard Design And Backyard Ideas

    Adapt a rotary clothes hoist??
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    concealment in place sight Hills Hoist - Wikipedia
     
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  15. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Easy enough in a battle field environment or a country that smells like a sewer to begin with, but in a pristine area you will be discovered in short order. It is very hard to conceal cooking odors, the sound of ventilation motors, not to mention voices...

    In a residential area, it would be impossible. If you had several hundred square miles of undeveloped property, it might be easier..
     
  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

  17. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    As a rule when I build something, it is with the expectation of growth. a space to add things I've forgotten.
    There will always be something discovered forgotten after the initial project is completed, bank on it.
    Didn't allow for water purification, or water storage or food for the pets or some place they can relieve them selves. Pets can be a morale issue positive and negative. A place to work and repair and build things,
    Above ground surveillance and auxiliary escape tunnels and other means to defend the perimeter cannot be ignored.
    If every thing above ground has been ransacked and burned there are no resources left to fall back on, neither is there information as to the status of the country, without above ground antenna .
    What you have below ground is all there is to expect to work with when you go topside.
    If you have a well , it will attract others to live there , unless it is not visible in the vacant landscape .
    If the well is hidden with in the under ground shelter and the leach field for your septic empties into ground that grows nothing, you might remain hidden.
    Better still have a aqua-ponic garden and grow lights for a food source and develop waste/energy (Methane gas conversion for cooking / heating fuel ) conversion for the manure.
    These things take space, more than living space .
    If one is going to make a bunker ,it may as well be done to handle the worst case scenario . CME ,world aflame .
     
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  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I would have to bury a boat since I hit ground water at 3/4 feet.
     
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