What Is Next- A Story Of Survival

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Yard Dart, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. I have a plan, am ready with a G.H.B. and have my planning in place.

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  2. I have started to plan and have my G.H.B in the rig ready to go.

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  3. I have a G.H.B. but need to figure this out.

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  4. I have some work to do........

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  5. What is a G.H.B.?

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  6. I am a survivor and ready for what may come.

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  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Sir @BTPost may be able to provide some suggestions. I know that many of us have portable ham radios for just this sort of contingency.
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    You have to rule out radios that were not stored in a Faraday cage for the posed scenario.
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  3. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    You are absolutely correct on this.... maybe a work place cache in the nearby with a Faraday cage would have been prudent....!!! Guess that rules out use of my radio in my GHB......
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  4. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    Speaking of, mom did our monthly shopping today, and at Walmart the power went out briefly, I presume due to storm. But in a region wide power outage like YD's original post, she'd be in big trouble due to having around 50miles to cover to get home, and she can't walk without a cane. My 'purse' is a small backpack that I keep stocked with a multi-tool that has a compass, first aid supplies, flashlight, matches(in ziploc baggies for waterproofness), napkins/toilet paper, and granola bars(though this morning I found I hadn't replenished my supply after I ate the last one).
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  5. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Going to get hungry at mile 20 I suspect....... and probably thirsty as there was no mention if a means to purify water....
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  6. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    As I have no real way testing this I can't say it will work. I've taken an ammo can soldered a copper grounding lug on and bolted a copper woven ground strap that is then grounded. The stuff inside is wrapped in non conductive wrapping with no batteries installed. Was told this "should" work?
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  7. whynot

    whynot Monkey+++

    Unfortunately work storage of a grounded faraday cage would be a no go for the wife. Need a vehicle based storage solution. I'm all ears though.:)
  8. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    I wonder.. I wonder if the can I mentioned would work if grounded to the vehicle frame? In the oil field we have to have ground straps mounted to our truck frames. They are long enough that they simply drag the ground. Whenever they wear short we just bolt another in its place. I wonder if this set up would be enough to protect stuff in a box that was grounded to the frame? Throwing darts at this one...
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  9. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Strictly, a Faraday cage does NOT need to be grounded during the pulse itself. But you better ground it out before opening, there's apt to be a static charge built up that could fry something. This (in an office setting) would be as easy as putting a wire into the ground of a normal outlet and touching the other end to the box. Well, assuming the building ground was still intact anyway. Outside, set the box on the ground for a while.
    Now then, you are facing a hike of unknown length (in terms of time, if not distance.)
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  10. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Okay, so I have dug up my cache outside of the office and secured a working radio... but it will only get me about 7 miles or so in my terrain till I get to the other side of the pass. I have my camel back filled, pulled my GHB out of the truck, secured my secondary weapon (as I normally CC) and strap a knife to the hip. I also have pulled out a map I placed in the GHB some time ago with details of multiple routes and caches along each route. I have also changed into a more neutral but outdoors type of clothing.... grey man is still in effect.... I am not cammo'd out, but I am wearing appropriate clothing for the weather and stuff that is tried and capable for the task at hand. I don't have a bike so I am on foot for now.... guess I better change into the spare pair of boots in the truck that are broke in and ready for the trek.

    Should I worry about my co-workers or get headed out into the darkeness.... it is about 6:30 PM now? Would I want to stay the night and wait till daylight to see if things are better.... and with more light? Or do I want to get down the road as I have three days or so to get home... and the better to get out of the area before things start to fall apart.... hmmmm?
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  11. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    What is the weather forecast for the night? Normally I would say head out. The weather would come in to play as well as co worker's mindset. Not a time to play survival instructor IMO.
  12. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    The weather is a moot point in my opinion. If you move out right away you have the cover of darkness and whatever else the weather provides. If it is raining or snowing.... most will sit tight which will give you better safety along your route. with less folks to encounter trying to get home as well. You do have a GHB with the seasonal gear in it to get through what you may expect for the time of year.... right.
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  13. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    It concerns me because of my knee. While I can walk, I have a harder time climbing/going down hill if I can't watch my footing. Sucks I know, but 14 knee ops and an artificial knee make it a reality.
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  14. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor Site Supporter+

    What you have there is known as a funnel kill zone. Very easy to stop anyone from crossing either way. Places like this are what the (local militias, citizens protective groups, leos, and military) should be keeping open and safe. Without that in place an individual or a very small group has to know it is what it is. A very serious threat that could easily take your life. If I had to cross something like this I would find me a hide where I could observe for 24 to 48 hours before making an attempt to cross. If others were slain attempting to cross you might have to detour. Better that than die.
  15. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    And that is a a very good point Tac... do you know your route... have you hiked it, have you checked out the options along the way if you have to deviate from the primary route. In my case I have and I know two routes up the same pass and many side tracks that will keep me on the same SE route. Once I am passed that 2,500 obstacle, I have many routes I have traversed either driving, running or walking......... that is the key right, know Your routes?!
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  16. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    It is fortunate that this route is also a minor pathway and not a funnel kill zone. At least initially into the SHTF!!!!
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  17. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    I would inform some of my coworkers of what I think happened before I headed out. Maybe hand one of my friends an extra copy of the army survival manual in my ghb. Since I live so close to work normally I'd invite a friend or 2 home for the night. I have a couple friends who are fairly like minded if not earlier on in their preparations. Depending on time of day would determine what needs to be done as far as the kids go. If they were home when it happened no worries. If they were still at school that is more of an issue. I have alternate transportation in the way of a 4 wheeler set up to take this kind of event ( I think, never know until it happens). If kids are home then I would go for the hubby first. If not then I'd get the kids first since hubby has his own ghb.

    For you I'd try to get to your pass as quickly as possible before anyone thinks enough to block it for either "official" or unofficial reasons. I think speed is really key here.
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  18. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    @Yard Dart Actually you do NOT need to go "over" that pass, as there is an Old Railroad Right of Way, that takes you OFF, the Freeway, and has a tunnel "Under the Pass".... that you could use, with your Collapsable Bicycle, and bypass all the other Traffic going over that Pass.... It is still there and was supposed to be turned into a "Bike Pass" but I haven't heard that that was done. I do know that all the Trackage was pulled up, a few years back. All the Rail Traffic that used to use that route, now goes over Stampede Pass....
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  19. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    There are several old trails and a couple of abandoned railroad lines getting from here to there...most of them are on my map highlighted as options....;) Going that direction though would put me right into a large town vs skirting it to the East. One of the considerations is the volume of foot traffic expected to be doing the same thing as I am. While I could take the flatter run on the west side as @BTPost suggested..... there will be a lot more folks going that route exiting the metro area. My route over the "hill" would dissuade many, with them opting for an easier route. Plus that little park at the top of the hill has an expansive trail network that ties directly in with my route... which will keep me off of the highway and moving in the right direction.
  20. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Taking the route I think you are talking about....on the East side of the area, the trail was only extended so far and dead ends at a water crossing. When they pulled the tracks, they also removed the old trestle and never placed a foot bridge for the crossing. I am not familiar with a tunnel... will take a look see into that.
    The mountain sure does not look like this anymore :)
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