Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Yard Dart, Mar 20, 2015.
I have armor for my entire family + guest armor.
No reason not to have it. If I think I'm ever going to be shooting at bad guys, I assume that they are shooting back.
All said and done, 100 lbs. is about right. With body armor and a full combat load, it can strain your feet and ankles considerably. This is why I invested in a solid pair of mountaineering boots, designed to hold all the weight.
and why I keep buying next gen <lighter> ceramics; thus the guest armor pile that keeps expanding with new technology...
I'd no more have any of that body armor than I would have one of those evil, black assault rifles made to kill dozens of people within seconds.
100lbs is ridiculous.
I had 3 heavy weight ar500 sets for my family and I put when I did a practice bug out I realized that carrying that with all my other stuff was just too much. So I got one of the smaller sets of ar500 not near the same level of protection but it's better to reach my location without having a heart attack climbing up mountains.
Exactly, around the home heavy armor yes. 25-50# of armor or 25-50# of food,water and ammo if we are our feet, we are goin' for the food, water and ammo.
These are 6.1 lbs a piece (plus the backers) for a total added weight of 15lbs or so. My carrier is pretty light too.
Velocity Systems Plate, LEVEL III/IV, ICW
It all depends on what you're doing. Around the property vs planning to cover great distances.
Situational awareness is important. Allow me to explain.
An army on occupation, that is to say, holding an active defensive posture is more likely to be vulnerable to sniper attack. Therefore, body armor plates assist in protecting from high caliber rifles. A soldier on guard or patrol, in the open, wears heavy body armor.
A single individual, or small group on patrol or utilizing stealth to evade or even navigate away from hostile intent, would not benefit the same from heavy body armor because they must be mobile and the threat level and type of threats are not the same. Therefore, a more flexible and lighter body armor is needed.
Think about it. I use the best IIIA armor and I use soft ballistic panels, not plates. I am not going to be in a tower, in the open, or making a known presence among hostiles. I train to be mobile, stealthy, and flexible. Your role should depict the level and type of armor you choose -don't make a simple decision a difficult one.
My MOPC with everything, including full combat loadout and coms, weighs 21 lbs. The only things I would add is the water to fill the Camelbak and the sidearm. =)
But not difficult to attain. Figure if you're carrying a gallon of water, in a sturdy container, you've added nearly 10 pounds. Combat ammo loads probably add at least that much, probably twice as much. Add a rifle, there's nearly 10 more. It adds up fast!
I remember reading that the guys who are on the mortar teams generally have to have others help carry THEIR combat load, because the weight of the mortar/base/rounds, even split up between 4 (or more) troops, would be more than they could handle, along with their combat load. Same with the guys who carried the BAR, back in the old days. The rifle itself was 16 pounds, and being an automatic, you carried a LOT of ammo!
This is why we NOW have the "Mechanized Infantry" and the Weapons Carrier.... to keep the Combat Loads down to a reasonable weight, and the Resupply as close to the Troops as possible.
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Do a search for "Vietnam era LRRP" or "recon teams in Afghanistan" or "recon teams in Iraq" Then hit images; you'll notice a lack of body armor. Infantry is quite a different subject.
If you will be out and about; you want to break contact same as the above do. They follow Jenny's advice "Run Forrest run.
However, for us stay at home types; body armor is a good thing. It is also a good idea for those traveling to their bug out location also.
Finally got to play with a little of the modern stuff. Got to say that I like it.
This is good stuff: PARACLETE Tactical Body-Armor Solutions
I won't get into my background in the Corps other than to say that I value speed and mobility much more than I value body armor, even more so now that I am older and slower. When my number is up, my number is up...and all the body armor in the world isn't gonna save me.
Did you say high speed, low drag was long ago? Run Forrest run?
As I mentioned body armor is for those staying put. If I needed to travel and I don't, I'd rather carry more of what I need than body armor. If one is wise and accepts they aren't Rambo, if they do travel, it will be slow.
Ditto, one of the differences between ex-military and others; we accept the potential of our number is up.
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