INCH Bag

Okay, where to begin? I want to put thought into this and not give out some kind of cockamamie information that won't help anyone. So I'll start at the beginning. DISCLAIMER: I don't have mine set up yet. I am searching for the best contents before assembling one.

Let's break down what we know.

EDC (Every Day Carry) Kit
An EDC kit is some survival things that you carry on you everyday to help in emergency situations. This kit can be separated in different pockets, in a fanny pack, in an Altoids can, etc. It's a small kit and limited in it's scope, though quite useful. This may include things such as a pocket knife, small flashlight, extra currency, etc. If you do not know what it is, then I suggest looking it up.

BOB (Bug Out Bag)
A BOB is a backpack, hiker's bag or such that allows you to stay away from home for a certain time period. This may be from the minimum of three days, as advised by FEMA, to a longer stay such as up to a couple weeks. These bags are as varied as the people who put them together. Your experiences and plans will dictate how yours is put together. You can search the site for more on BOBs.

And now for the reason I created this thread.

INCH (I'm Never Coming Home) Bag
This bag, cart, box or what have you, goes beyond the BOB. This is put together in the chance that some natural or man-made disaster takes your home from you. Say you get a warning of a nuclear strike on your home area and you know your home will be utterly destroyed and you never can live in that area again. This bag is designed to help you leave the area and seek out another place you can live.

I have seen many ideas about this. Some are weapons heavy. Some are food heavy. The ideal bag would be a balance of both security and survivability. You cannot keep your supplies without security and you cannot be secure if you starve to death. This is an example of one such bag I found on the net.

A (Top Main Compartment of Ruck)
Wet Weather Bag
7 Green Socks
2 Pairs of gloves
6 White T Shirts
5 Boxer Briefs
40oz of Peanut Butter
Dryer Lint in peanut butter jar (fire starting)
Guide 10 Solar battery charger
200rds 7.62x39mm
100rds .45 ACP
1000rds of .22lr
Ruger 10/22 Charger Pistol (fur huntin' skewerls n' such )
B (Bottom Main Compartment of Ruck)
Wet Weather Bag
Gen III Level 2 Top (Waffle Top)
Gen III Level 2 Pants (Waffle Trousers)
Gen III Level 1 Top (Silk Top)
Gen III Level 1 Bottom (Silk Trousers)
D3A Black Leather Winter Gloves
Skull Cap
Head Mosquito net
Extra Medical Supplies (Tourniquet, 2 Gauzes, Latex Gloves, Band Aids, 2 Israeli Dressings, Bottle of Aspirin, Nyquil Gel Caplets, Water Purification Tablets, Small Container Vaseline)
Shamwow (for collecting dew, and for other purposes)
C (Top Fanny Pouch on outside of Ruck)
Bone Saw
Skinning Knife
Gerber Multi Tool
Multi Vitamins
4 AA Batteries
6 AAA Batteries
Sewing Kit
Magnesium Fire Starter
2 P38 Can Openers
2 small bottles of WD 40
Small Maglight Flashlight
Crank Generated Flashlight/AM FM Radio
LCD Head Lamp
Blade Sharpener
Wicked Folding Hand Saw
Extra gear for Solar Battery Charger
Razor Blades
D (Bottom Fanny Pouch on outside of Ruck)
Roll of fishing line
Small Tackle Box
Bait
3x 100’ Paracord doughnuts
2 Bungee Cords
Zip ties
E (240B Ammo Pouch on Flap Cover of Ruck)
Wash Cloth
Q Tips
Tooth Brush
Tooth Paste
Finger Nail Clippers
Personal Mirror
Hand Operated Hair Clippers
3 bars Unscented Soap
Tweezers
F (Right Side Pouch)
FM 3-05.70
Ranger Handbook
Watertight box
Computer external hard drive
Photos of Family Members
US Constitution
Alabama Flag
Silver Mercury Dimes
6 Small Candies
Personal Documents (Birth Certificate, Social Security Card, HS Diploma, DD214, etc)
Any other Personal Items
G (Left Side Pouch)
Katadyn Base Camp filtration system (I hope to update this to the Katadyn Pocket Water Microfilter soon)
2 Extra Water Filters for Base Camp system
Coffee Filters (inside mess kit)
German Mess Kit
Silverware
H (E-Tool Pouch on Outside of Ruck)
x8 42gal 3mil Contractor (trash) bags
1 Gallon Zip Lock Freezer Bags
Attached to outside of Ruck
Roll of Duck Tape
East German Canteen with Hydrogen Peroxide
x3 1qt Canteens
Thick Vietnam Era WW Poncho
GI BDU Poncho
GI BDU Poncho Liner
Hennessy Hammock Expedition A-Sym
Chest Rig, Pistol Belt, and Butt Pack
Blackhawk Commando Vest
8 AK Mags (240rds) or 8 10/22 BX-25 mags (200rds)
First Aid Kit (Duck Tape, Combat Gauze, Tourniquet, Israeli Bandage, gloves)
Carabineer
6 Glock 21 Magazines (78rds of .45acp)
ACU Pistol Holster
Magazine drop pouch
2x24 Spirit Night Vision Monocular
KA-BAR 5556 Knife
Spare food such as Spam, etc. (not shown)
Cold Steel Frontier Hawk
Map Case and Camelback
All Weather Notebook
All Weather Pen
Maps of local area, AL, and TN
Lensatic Compass
Black Sharpie
Silver Paint Pen
4x Pencils
(Note: The bag used is said to be a MOLLE II rucksack with attachments. It is said to weigh 95lbs.)

This is not my bag, nor is it the be-all end-all. As I said, your bag may vary. Now I have done enough research on this to know that the idea of an INCH bag is supplemented with caches which have been placed before such a disaster happens. This is a start to get the discussion going.

 

At 96 pounds I would want a method of carrying it... a running stroller would allow you to carry an additional 30 pound bob in the event you need to move fast....

 

This is pretty kick ass idea actually...
Good post @TailorMadeHell

Shopping cart...

 

large wheeled Golf bag.... bicycle trailer... lots of options...

 

Exactly. The contents was taken from a military guy. I don't know if he was or not. I didn't research him. I will say that if he was or is, not a lot of people are in that good a shape to tote that. I know that as you use stuff, some of the weight will lessen, though that is most likely a negligible amount. For what you lose, you may gain again by resupply. I will look at this list and others of its kind to have an idea for one setup. Some you can live without, others you shouldn't try. One list I saw says only a 22 rifle and they mention 10k rounds of ammo. One said a 25# bag of rice. Suggestions on what to remove, what to add or just ideas on it can get us closer to what Joe or Jane Average can move with assurance. I also realize that some have BOLs though others don't.

 

Around here, the rolling golf bag carriers are cheap and plentiful at the thrift stores. They have wheels made for off road and a large duffel or backpack fits right on. And if you can ruck a 95# pack, you won't need defensive firearms.....

 

Cool thread. I've got some catching up to do.

 

My plan is a cart I built so that I could take my gardening with me, because if Im not coming back it's likely I'l have to start growing my own food.
I took a wheel chair with solid rubber tires and steel conduit with the connectors they use for building shade at swap meets.
I can configure the cart to accommodate any configuration necessary . It can handle 300 lbs very nicely.
Having fought fire in the forest service, I don't take any thing for granted, the those tools go with me as well .
Difficult as it is to haul water ,hauling water filters is more important and I am including several methods as well as a distiller .
I have a large fresnel lens that is easy to bring along for cooking with out fire, boiling the distiller, and preheat rocks for night time comfort.
Large roll of plastic sheeting for various needs including green house, rain collection, and shelter.

 

Fresnal Lens... is that the magnifying reader thing that's the size of a page?

 

Look at the pictures of infantry from Afghanistan and Iraq. In one picture they have a pack; in another they don't. Infantry drops their packs if they need to fight. A person foraging for survival cannot afford to drop their pack.

Same as many others we live in the woods. We don't have 30 meg internet and the nearest pharmacy. ABC or grocery store is miles away. I'm not being rude, mean or survival anti social; however, do us a favor and bug out some place else.
I apologize if that sounds crude and rude. However what do you offer us except killing off all our game, raiding our gardens and more.

 

What am I missing, Tikka?

 

I doubt you are missing much. Or do you believe us hicks in the sticks will welcome hundreds?

 

So, you are commenting about bugging out? I'm just missing the context for the post...seemed to be a "that escalated quickly" moment, and I'm lost.

 

What I am saying is where are all these people bugging out to and hopefully not here.

We live on 49.1 acres of forest. There is game, fish and we have gardens. I'm sure if SHTF happens, many will be glad to move in and strip the land and move on.

Thousands leave the cities and suburbs; where do they plan to settle?

What I am saying is what about us who drove a 40 mile one way commute for years to live where we do?

 

I believe that what you can expect ,is the there will be locals that will close of their own areas to prevent out siders from exploiting their resources .

 

Well, I cant bug out . My wife cant walk a mile much less out of a disaster zone. I am far enough removed from high population centers that Im not going to even try.. If I cant use a vehicle I cant move. I would think that any "never come home pack" would be equipped with long term scavenging tools. Going to be breaking in to many homes and stores looking for supplies. This type of nomad is going to come into contact with a lot of guys like me who are dug in and sitting it out. I dont think one can carry enough ammo . You will need to hunt forage and raid to live. Nothing beats a .22 rifle for long term on the run. You can carry several thousand rounds of .22 lr. Several hundred rounds of .223 and even less of anything else. My load out as far as weapons go would be a Ruger 10/22 and 4 bricks of ammo or 2000 rounds. I would do everything I could to avoid people. One good multi tool, lots of water purification straws. Vitamins, One good Knife and a .22 pistol . I have some High calorie food bars and trail mix, Raman and of course the food kit for cooking and boiling water. But I would stress that you will HAVE TO BE an expert at foraging because you can NOT carry enough to never go home. You will be always looking for food and water. ALWAYS. Shelter would most likely be all around as Homes deserted and cars, trucks campers etc will be all over the place. The question will be are they uninhabited? Many will argue against the .22 . Go ahead. We proved in Militia Training that over 95% of engagements will be under 100 yards and anyone with a good .22 is in the game if he can shoot and move. You will also have to find weapons and ammo as you go. Forget the urge to start carving stick weapons. Stay with modern until you cant.

But this type of scenario is always talked about and always ends up with the same arguments. It would be a tough road to hoe out on your own with what you can carry. I would not wish that ON ANYONE HERE. The variables are so wide that one cant even begin to determine what he or she will need. That is why I am in the bug in group. Even if my wife died I would still stay here because I have the things here to survive. Food, water, shelter and a defensible position. On the road I am a stranger everywhere. I dont know the land, the game areas, the local people etc. Nope here I am king of my castle, the master of my little A.O. I am better here than anywhere else.

 

fresnel lens. This one is @24"x36" with grommets in the corners, it would need no frame. And it can be rolled, as long as it is not too tight. (Might crack)

 

Yours is better than mine .
mine won't focus down far enough to get that hot , but it does get hot enough to cook.

 

Well as "distasteful" as the hordes of roamers go you can guess how many varied types there will be. It will be a fact of life that those in bad ways will try to find better conditions. There will be raiders and refugees. Raiders are to be watched and possibly eliminated. Refugees are, for some reason or other, in a bad way and trying to survive. Captain One-Man-Army may do good by himself in his hidey hole, though even he can't stand against a horde. If I had a BOL and found a useful person to add to my community, I.e. a doctor, then I'd try to recruit them. Not all refugees will be a bad decision if you include them. It's understandable to want to protect your AO and manage what you have, though some might come with their own supplies and just need a safe place to start over. It goes back to weighing the consequences against the rewards. If your group already is at limit, then obviously you most likely can't handle additions. If you are just a couple, another person may have added benefit.